Sealant/Wax Application ?'s
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Sealant/Wax Application ?'s
I'm looking for the longest lasting protection. Would 2 coats of sealant protect longer than one coat of sealant and one coat of wax?
Also, if I apply 1 coat of sealant today then drive the car for a few weeks... Do I need to clay the car again before putting on another coat?
Also, if I apply 1 coat of sealant today then drive the car for a few weeks... Do I need to clay the car again before putting on another coat?
#2
Former Vendor
sealants generally offer longer protection (not necessarily better). There are some waxes like Collonite and Finishkare that defy that logic however.
with any product you want to follow manufacturers directions. If its a pure sealant allow 12-24 hours prior to topping with another layer. Waxes can be used as toppers over sealants and typically offer more wetness and depth, but should NOT be topped with sealant. So if you plan on adding a second layer of a sealant, dont top until done with layers of sealant. Do not clay inbetween but make sure finish is clean before adding layer if any appreciable time has passed (week, month)
with any product you want to follow manufacturers directions. If its a pure sealant allow 12-24 hours prior to topping with another layer. Waxes can be used as toppers over sealants and typically offer more wetness and depth, but should NOT be topped with sealant. So if you plan on adding a second layer of a sealant, dont top until done with layers of sealant. Do not clay inbetween but make sure finish is clean before adding layer if any appreciable time has passed (week, month)
#3
Instructor
I just finished a second coat of Wolfgang 3.0 sealant about 15 minutes ago. I only waited 9 hours between coats because I wanted to put some Pinnacle on it tomorrow morning. The car looks killer right now, the paint looks really wet. How much of a difference would it make between 9 hours and 12 hours?
#4
Team Owner
Two coats of Rejex topped if you wish with some Mequairs NXT 2.0 and you are good to go for a good 6 months, with one fine shine.
#5
Former Vendor
I just finished a second coat of Wolfgang 3.0 sealant about 15 minutes ago. I only waited 9 hours between coats because I wanted to put some Pinnacle on it tomorrow morning. The car looks killer right now, the paint looks really wet. How much of a difference would it make between 9 hours and 12 hours?
#6
Melting Slicks
I'm looking for the longest lasting protection. Would 2 coats of sealant protect longer than one coat of sealant and one coat of wax?
Also, if I apply 1 coat of sealant today then drive the car for a few weeks... Do I need to clay the car again before putting on another coat?
Also, if I apply 1 coat of sealant today then drive the car for a few weeks... Do I need to clay the car again before putting on another coat?
How often you clay depends on several factors. If the car is outside 24/7, if it's a daily driver, if you have extreme wind or dust conditions, tree sap etc., you may want to clay a few times per year.
If it's a weekend garage queen, once a year claybar would probably be fine.
I like to apply a coat of Blackfire or Zaino every couple months, even though I know it lasts much longer than that. And I don't clay every time.
However, I do clay at least once a year. The car is not driven in winter, but If I get caught in a rain storm, no big deal.
Claybar will take most (if not all) of the sealant off your vehicle.
As far as the 2nd coat, I apply it immediately after the first with both products, with essentially no cure time in between.
I keep the paint slick between sealant applications, with Zaino Z8!!!
#7
Le Mans Master
I swear by Wolfgang products, I polished and sealed both of our c6's and my grand cherokee about a year and a half ago and they all still bead like crazy, and both vettes get washed at least once a week and the grand cherokee probally twice a week. Awsome product.,
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Former Vendor
we appreciate the review ...and we try to offer the best value, best ingredients, and ultimately the best products. Wolfgang, Pinnacle, DP, and Diamonite are in house brands that we control and these reviews keep the products coming and getting better and better.
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For long lasting protection the two products I use are Zaino Z2Pro and Blackfire Wet Diamond. Two coats will last for several months giving your paint very good protection, slickness, and shine. Water will bead like you won't believe!
How often you clay depends on several factors. If the car is outside 24/7, if it's a daily driver, if you have extreme wind or dust conditions, tree sap etc., you may want to clay a few times per year.
If it's a weekend garage queen, once a year claybar would probably be fine.
I like to apply a coat of Blackfire or Zaino every couple months, even though I know it lasts much longer than that. And I don't clay every time.
However, I do clay at least once a year. The car is not driven in winter, but If I get caught in a rain storm, no big deal.
Claybar will take most (if not all) of the sealant off your vehicle.
As far as the 2nd coat, I apply it immediately after the first with both products, with essentially no cure time in between.
I keep the paint slick between sealant applications, with Zaino Z8!!!
How often you clay depends on several factors. If the car is outside 24/7, if it's a daily driver, if you have extreme wind or dust conditions, tree sap etc., you may want to clay a few times per year.
If it's a weekend garage queen, once a year claybar would probably be fine.
I like to apply a coat of Blackfire or Zaino every couple months, even though I know it lasts much longer than that. And I don't clay every time.
However, I do clay at least once a year. The car is not driven in winter, but If I get caught in a rain storm, no big deal.
Claybar will take most (if not all) of the sealant off your vehicle.
As far as the 2nd coat, I apply it immediately after the first with both products, with essentially no cure time in between.
I keep the paint slick between sealant applications, with Zaino Z8!!!
I'm thinking of trying it on my 69 corvette. I buffed with Menzerna and topped with Z2 but instead of a second coat of Z2 was thinking of using BFWD
#10
Melting Slicks
If I was going for extreme durability, I would use Wolfgang 3.0 topped with Finish Kare Hi Temp Paste.
Each one individually beat out dozens of waxes and sealants in a super test earlier this year, so combined they would likely be extraordinary.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=85205
I dont think they tried BFWD though, it might give Wolfgang a run for its money.
Each one individually beat out dozens of waxes and sealants in a super test earlier this year, so combined they would likely be extraordinary.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=85205
I dont think they tried BFWD though, it might give Wolfgang a run for its money.
#11
Former Vendor
We now carry Rejex which has long been considered some of the longest protection by the forum members here. I would add the Klasse Twins (AIO and SG) is still personally the longest protection I have seen. Adding a carnuaba topper to any is often more about looks than enhancing durability. There are spray hybrids and spray sealants that can also extend the length of protection and often quite quick and easy to use at any wash interval.
#12
Race Director
This weekend I clayed, polished with Menzerna, sealed with Wolfgang 3.0 and added a coat of Pinnacle sovereign carnuba on my '05 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It has never looked better. This is the same process that I use on my Black C-6. I rely on the Geek for all my stuff.