Polishing experts, need advice.......
11-11-2013, 10:35 AM
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Polishing experts, need advice.......
I purchased a 2011 GS BLACK, i have never owned a black car before and I know why but the wife loves it so that was the deal if i wanted another vette. Under my garage lights i can see lots of fine scratches in the clear coat, what is the best way to remove them? Should i sand down with 3M 3000 then rubbing compound with orbital buffer then polishing compound? Looking for the best method to get that new car shine and get rid of all the scrathes and swirls. Any help would be great!
11-11-2013, 10:49 AM
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Team Owner
NOOOOOOOO!!!!! 
Got your attention?
No sanding, hopefully, will be needed.
Very common problem. Usually relatively easy to fix (it's actually called paint CORRECTION).....but on a black car it's probably best to leave it to a professional detailer or preferably a paint correction expert.
It just takes time with a dual action buffer, maybe a rotary buffer, and the right polishing compounds and pads.
If you want to do it yourself, I suggest you get educated by going to Autogeek.net and reviewing their tutorial videos, how-to's, forums, etc. There is A LOT to learn if you've never done it before. They sell all the products and equipment you will need for a good price and offer great service. They are a vendor here too. Also, you can go into the Auto Care Forum here and talk to other owners and many professionals who hang out there. You could even look around for a local detailer who offers beginner intro seminars so you could actually see the process up close.....maybe check with local Corvette, BMW, Porsche clubs who may sponsor such seminars regularly.
Good luck and have fun.
Edit: Link to the Care Care Forum here:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-care-discussion-10/
Got your attention?
No sanding, hopefully, will be needed.
Very common problem. Usually relatively easy to fix (it's actually called paint CORRECTION).....but on a black car it's probably best to leave it to a professional detailer or preferably a paint correction expert.
It just takes time with a dual action buffer, maybe a rotary buffer, and the right polishing compounds and pads.
If you want to do it yourself, I suggest you get educated by going to Autogeek.net and reviewing their tutorial videos, how-to's, forums, etc. There is A LOT to learn if you've never done it before. They sell all the products and equipment you will need for a good price and offer great service. They are a vendor here too. Also, you can go into the Auto Care Forum here and talk to other owners and many professionals who hang out there. You could even look around for a local detailer who offers beginner intro seminars so you could actually see the process up close.....maybe check with local Corvette, BMW, Porsche clubs who may sponsor such seminars regularly.
Good luck and have fun.
Edit: Link to the Care Care Forum here:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-care-discussion-10/
Last edited by RicK T; 11-11-2013 at 10:52 AM.
11-11-2013, 10:50 AM
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Le Mans Master
Try Menzerna super intense polish from Auto Geek followed by there final polish use orange pad for super and white for final polish than us zanio or c magic that is put on at the Corvette Muesum for del.
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11-11-2013, 12:42 PM
#4
Drifting
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Got your attention?
No sanding, hopefully, will be needed.
Very common problem. Usually relatively easy to fix (it's actually called paint CORRECTION).....but on a black car it's probably best to leave it to a professional detailer or preferably a paint correction expert.
It just takes time with a dual action buffer, maybe a rotary buffer, and the right polishing compounds and pads.
If you want to do it yourself, I suggest you get educated by going to Autogeek.net and reviewing their tutorial videos, how-to's, forums, etc. There is A LOT to learn if you've never done it before. They sell all the products and equipment you will need for a good price and offer great service. They are a vendor here too. Also, you can go into the Auto Care Forum here and talk to other owners and many professionals who hang out there. You could even look around for a local detailer who offers beginner intro seminars so you could actually see the process up close.....maybe check with local Corvette, BMW, Porsche clubs who may sponsor such seminars regularly.
Good luck and have fun.
Edit: Link to the Care Care Forum here:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-care-discussion-10/
Got your attention?
No sanding, hopefully, will be needed.
Very common problem. Usually relatively easy to fix (it's actually called paint CORRECTION).....but on a black car it's probably best to leave it to a professional detailer or preferably a paint correction expert.
It just takes time with a dual action buffer, maybe a rotary buffer, and the right polishing compounds and pads.
If you want to do it yourself, I suggest you get educated by going to Autogeek.net and reviewing their tutorial videos, how-to's, forums, etc. There is A LOT to learn if you've never done it before. They sell all the products and equipment you will need for a good price and offer great service. They are a vendor here too. Also, you can go into the Auto Care Forum here and talk to other owners and many professionals who hang out there. You could even look around for a local detailer who offers beginner intro seminars so you could actually see the process up close.....maybe check with local Corvette, BMW, Porsche clubs who may sponsor such seminars regularly.
Good luck and have fun.
Edit: Link to the Care Care Forum here:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-care-discussion-10/
NO SANDING !!I also have black & removed 99% of them with the car care kit from AutoGeeks, I washed car with Blue Dawn to remove old waxes, then used orbital machine using Megs #205 (you may have to use #105 first on severe swirls) according to their video on the right way to do it, it becomes very easy to see your progress then I applied Megs. NXT waited 24 hrs. then put a coat of Megs. Carnauba wax, I am very pleased with the results, BUT being black dust shows up as soon as your finished, that's the down side.. Oh well !!
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11-11-2013, 01:00 PM
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Le Mans Master
As already stated, NO sanding. If it come to that, then I suggest that you have a professional do any wet sanding that is need.
With that sad, the clear coat on Corvette's is a fairly hard surface and what you are seeing is very common, especially on dark colors. There are a lot of great products out there, I happen to use Adams Detail products. All of his products are extremely easy to use and they do get the job done. If you should decide to tackle the job, I suggest that you check out a few of the auto detail vendors here and see what they have to offer. Adams not only is a vendor here, but he also has a great forum if you have in special questions.
With that sad, the clear coat on Corvette's is a fairly hard surface and what you are seeing is very common, especially on dark colors. There are a lot of great products out there, I happen to use Adams Detail products. All of his products are extremely easy to use and they do get the job done. If you should decide to tackle the job, I suggest that you check out a few of the auto detail vendors here and see what they have to offer. Adams not only is a vendor here, but he also has a great forum if you have in special questions.
11-11-2013, 01:47 PM
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Former Vendor
wetsanding is best for removing orange peel and working on deeper scratches. You will find success using Menzerna SIP and 085rd, or Wolfgang TSR and FG 3.0. Both are two step polishes and best used by machine with some foam pads. (hydro techs rock)
Come visit our site and forum for your needs and best of all free advice and hints as well as videos .... www.autogeek.net
Come visit our site and forum for your needs and best of all free advice and hints as well as videos .... www.autogeek.net
11-11-2013, 04:27 PM
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Former Vendor
NOOOOO sanding, as mentioned above. That's a last resort.
Do you have a machine polisher at your disposal? On black, it's nearly a must do. Machine polishing will yield the results you're after. Hand polishing is capable of making some improvements, but it really takes a machine to yield swirl/scratch free results.
Our 2-step paint polishing combo will get you where you want to be. You can find all of our polishing kits here:
http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-59-ma...-and-kits.aspx
Take a moment to cruise trough our videos, lots of great info in there...especially in regards to machine polishing!
http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-videos.aspx
Do you have a machine polisher at your disposal? On black, it's nearly a must do. Machine polishing will yield the results you're after. Hand polishing is capable of making some improvements, but it really takes a machine to yield swirl/scratch free results.
Our 2-step paint polishing combo will get you where you want to be. You can find all of our polishing kits here:
http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-59-ma...-and-kits.aspx
Take a moment to cruise trough our videos, lots of great info in there...especially in regards to machine polishing!
http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-videos.aspx
11-11-2013, 04:46 PM
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Even professional detailers can cause problems, by leaving swirls in the clearcoat or by getting overly-aggressive with the polish and removing more of your clearcoat than is necessary. Some of those guys will start out with a rotary wire brush.
Do some checking around you area, and be sure the polish guy knows you want minimum clear removal.
It should look awesome when finished!
Do some checking around you area, and be sure the polish guy knows you want minimum clear removal.
It should look awesome when finished!
11-11-2013, 04:50 PM
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Melting Slicks
Black is a pain. Probably be the last black car I own but here is my review/steps on removing scratches and swirls of my GS.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...on-the-c6.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...on-the-c6.html
11-12-2013, 09:03 AM
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11-13-2013, 06:56 AM
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As already stated, NO sanding. If it come to that, then I suggest that you have a professional do any wet sanding that is need.
With that sad, the clear coat on Corvette's is a fairly hard surface and what you are seeing is very common, especially on dark colors. There are a lot of great products out there, I happen to use Adams Detail products. All of his products are extremely easy to use and they do get the job done. If you should decide to tackle the job, I suggest that you check out a few of the auto detail vendors here and see what they have to offer. Adams not only is a vendor here, but he also has a great forum if you have in special questions.
With that sad, the clear coat on Corvette's is a fairly hard surface and what you are seeing is very common, especially on dark colors. There are a lot of great products out there, I happen to use Adams Detail products. All of his products are extremely easy to use and they do get the job done. If you should decide to tackle the job, I suggest that you check out a few of the auto detail vendors here and see what they have to offer. Adams not only is a vendor here, but he also has a great forum if you have in special questions.
I also have a black Vette and I used to polish & wax it by hand and I THOUGHT it looked good, untill I got a Porter Cable. What I difference ! Adams Swirl Remover, followed by polish then sealant and finally wax. You WON"T be disappointed, this is not a quick job, expect to spend a least 6 - 8 hours, but when you are finished you will be very proud of your accomplishment. Don't be afraid with the foam pads, you can't screw up. Go to Adams website, alot of great info. 
