Black 'Vette owners what's the best "Black Wax"
08-02-2014, 05:26 PM
#162
Safety Car
"Preparation is the key!"
Decontamination is a major part of preparation.
I normally do at least a three step paint decon.
I use a citrus degreaser, 2Bwash, IronX & clay.
While I'm claying, I baggie test each panel I do.
Decon is not about shine. It's about clean paint.
Almost each wax has a different subjective "look".
Many sealants each have their own "look & feel".
Some coatings have a "look". Some have no look.
CQF, for example, can be used on a matte finish.
Use what YOU like for a Last Step Product & enjoy.
Decontamination is a major part of preparation.
I normally do at least a three step paint decon.
I use a citrus degreaser, 2Bwash, IronX & clay.
While I'm claying, I baggie test each panel I do.
Decon is not about shine. It's about clean paint.
Almost each wax has a different subjective "look".
Many sealants each have their own "look & feel".
Some coatings have a "look". Some have no look.
CQF, for example, can be used on a matte finish.
Use what YOU like for a Last Step Product & enjoy.
08-02-2014, 08:11 PM
#163
Drifting
Thread Starter
My paint is many miles from perfect..lots of swirls, imperfections and scratches no matter what..so anything I do is an improvement. I thought the "reflection" on the hood of my 2nd pic was pretty cool. Oh well it's all good..now I got to tackle the rest of my car.
Cheers fellas..!
Cheers fellas..!
08-02-2014, 10:57 PM
#164
Former Vendor
I have blackice (pretty sure it purchased from you) and have used it a couple of times. I am not fond of it. I find it hard to remove and lacking in longevity (maybe 3 weeks on a garage queen - a garage queen driven about 100 miles!). Other Carnaubas I have last much longer, and I prefer the warmth and depth of them also. Sorry, but just giving my opinion.
PS, I put it on my wife's Camaro last week, I'll see how it does again.
PS, I put it on my wife's Camaro last week, I'll see how it does again.
08-06-2014, 07:03 PM
#165
Instructor
sorry it did not meet your expectations. Which product did you use (several waxes and sealants are in the Blackfire line) ??? Remember none of nuba waxes offered in this line have any cleaners or polishes. You need to clean and prep paint before use. Not sure why you saw such poor durability, Blackfire has long been regarded for its durability even with the nuba products. Perhaps the wash your using is a bit harsh and designed for use with a sealant versus wax ???
P.s. I know it is known for longevity, which is why I tried it. I just don't like it.
Last edited by trm 84; 08-06-2014 at 10:07 PM.
08-07-2014, 09:07 PM
#166
Former Vendor
I'm pretty sure there is only 1 blackice, right? The hybrid one? I put it on a clean, clayed car and wash with a pH neutral soap that doesn't degrade other Carnauba waxes. It just didn't work well and was hard to work with compared to the other waxes I use.
P.s. I know it is known for longevity, which is why I tried it. I just don't like it.
P.s. I know it is known for longevity, which is why I tried it. I just don't like it.
08-26-2014, 01:26 PM
#172
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I've been using Blackfire Black Ice wax for a few months now and it wasn't looking so great to me. I also had trouble removing it and in bright sunlight I would always see places where I'd have to polish again. I also did swirl removal with Blackfire products and a Porter Cable, but I was still regretting my purchase of a black car. I finally learned that applying the wax in a very thin coat is the key. Last weekend I used a tiny amount on each panel, just enough to smudge it really, and it came off nicely. Then yesterday the GS was sitting in bright sunlight and it looked like it was freshly painted and black as sin.
So I'd recommend BF's polish and seal and then top it off with a VERY thin coat of Black Ice.
So I'd recommend BF's polish and seal and then top it off with a VERY thin coat of Black Ice.
08-26-2014, 01:59 PM
#173
Safety Car
I made some posts earlier in this thread about the need to correct paint before simply applying a wax or sealant.
A picture is worth a thousand words, so here is the point I was trying to make from some of my recent paint corrections.
Before of a black Caddy CTSV. Would you really expect good results waxing or sealant over this without correcting the paint first?
After correction. Also, ignore the horrible trim. That's how plasti dip looks after it's been on there way too long and the owner wanted me to leave it.
Which of these would you rather apply your final product over? Obviously, not the first.
Just so everyone knows that no camera trickery was used, here is a 50/50 shot of the front fender on the same car. Left side is compounded and the right side is only washed and clayed.
Also,
Here is a 50/50 on a C5 Corvette that is also black
Hopefully these pictures and video will help illustrate the point I was trying to make in my earlier posts in this thread. Just like anything in life, your final result really depends on your prep work. You can have the best wax or sealant in the world, but if you put it over crap, you really only have highly reflective crap
A picture is worth a thousand words, so here is the point I was trying to make from some of my recent paint corrections.
Before of a black Caddy CTSV. Would you really expect good results waxing or sealant over this without correcting the paint first?
After correction. Also, ignore the horrible trim. That's how plasti dip looks after it's been on there way too long and the owner wanted me to leave it.
Which of these would you rather apply your final product over? Obviously, not the first.
Just so everyone knows that no camera trickery was used, here is a 50/50 shot of the front fender on the same car. Left side is compounded and the right side is only washed and clayed.
Also,
Here is a 50/50 on a C5 Corvette that is also black
Hopefully these pictures and video will help illustrate the point I was trying to make in my earlier posts in this thread. Just like anything in life, your final result really depends on your prep work. You can have the best wax or sealant in the world, but if you put it over crap, you really only have highly reflective crap
08-26-2014, 02:15 PM
#175
Advanced
There is no point bringing a mirror-deep shine to an imperfect surface.
Detailing enhances paintwork, but paint correction repairs it.
The paint correction process removes all unsightly swirl marks,
micro-marring, holograms, light scratches, bird stains & water marks...
before the wax, sealant or coating is applied to the paintwork.
What ever you apply as your LSP from Zaino Z-2 to CQuartz FINEST...
If you do not correct the swirls first you will have very shiny swirls!
Detailing enhances paintwork, but paint correction repairs it.
The paint correction process removes all unsightly swirl marks,
micro-marring, holograms, light scratches, bird stains & water marks...
before the wax, sealant or coating is applied to the paintwork.
What ever you apply as your LSP from Zaino Z-2 to CQuartz FINEST...
If you do not correct the swirls first you will have very shiny swirls!
08-26-2014, 02:38 PM
#176
Safety Car
08-26-2014, 03:52 PM
#177
Safety Car
I definitely agree.Ya can shine scratches great.But then you will have A shiny scratch.
Definitely need to do A body detail then wax and protect it,Cquartz,xpel ,something
Definitely need to do A body detail then wax and protect it,Cquartz,xpel ,something
09-02-2014, 02:19 AM
#178
Drifting
Thread Starter
What's the best one step polishing compound that's available at local auto supply stores..autozone. pep boys etc etc ?? I been waxing my scratches I'm afraid.