1pt4brd

What the heck is this?

wonka12_98

You mean no rinse?

ttx350z

Waterless wash is like detailing spray but with way more lubrication.

I use it in between washes. Obviously not recommended for use when you car is heavily soiled.

ronkh57

Yep

I use Poorboys spray and wipe. Just cleans, does not add anything. (glossing agents, wax, etc)

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-ca...-products.html

There are waterless and rinseless washes ... both are described above and some of the techniques to use it properly. These items are used frequently in water restricted areas, but can be used elsewhere with equal success.

0Adam's Polish

Waterless wash is a great, safe way to clean your car without dragging out hose and buckets. Check out this video!

1pt4brd

So a detailing spray is not considered waterless or rinse less?

ttx350z

Yes and no. If your're detailing, it is techinically a waterless process since you're not using a bucket or hose of water.

And again it's not a true waterless wash because detailing spray does not have the same amount of lubrication as a true waterless wash.

For example, I use Surf City Garage Pro-rinse free concentrate. I can mix it 64:1 with water and use it as a detailer, or mix it 16:1 as a waterless wash. So the higher concetrate of the active ingredients is what makes it safe to "wash" your vehicle. The higher concentration of wax/cleaners is what emulsifies the dirt and makes it safe. A detailer would not have as high a concentration so it may possibly not emulsify all the dirt and that could scratch your paint.

There's time a detailing spray comes in handy. Such as after an actual wash and you want to clay the car. You still need lubrication for the clay bar. Since the car was just wash, it's safe to say that there is not that much dust on it. It is more economical for me to use a detailing spray since the solution has 4x less concentrate, so I save money by not using more concentrate than I need.

0Adam's Polish

My 2005 GTO has only been washed with water 3 or 4 times, all the rest (after every drive) I either do a WW or Detail Spray wipe down.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

Some products, like Optimum No Rinse (ONR) is designed to be a detail spray, waterless, rinseless, and even clay lube. You dilute it depending on the design needed.

Others like Blackfire make each product specifically for the need. As such the Rinseless Wash is already premade and specifically for rinseless purposes.

What are your specific needs and the environment that it will be used ??

1pt4brd

Had a good day here a week or so and took a drive. Not good enough weather to give it a full bath. Need to clean it up. But will also be taking some road trips this summer and want to clean it up after being on the road. So looking for the best spit shine.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

When we travel we have a small detail bag. I take a small bottle of Poorboys Bug Squash and I mix up some ONR for clean-ups. Most of the area is taken up by lots of soft MF towels. As another hint, take a couple ziplocks so that you can place the dirty towels in them away from all others. If you don't have a traditional detail bag ... those vinyl lunch pails work well too

radiocide222

They pretty much have it right. I only use waterless washes on my 'Vette since I've detailed it. It's all it really needs seeing as how it's garage kept and only driven on nice days when the roads are dry.

Like what has been stated, a Waterless Wash is basically a QD on steroids with the lubrication. You're not using any water, period, it's pretty much a spray-on-wipe-off product (ergo the "waterless") while a rinseless wash is a wash concentrate that is added to a single bucket of water, has exceptional lubrication abilities, and can be wiped to a shine after you wash the panel, hence "no rinsing" required.

the kid C6

I had never heard of a waterless wash until I found this topic.
I find that I am more than a little disturbed when my car is dirty, for no particular reason (because I am comfortable with dirt in other areas of my life).
So, today I picked up a spray bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, and I think I'm in love. I cleaned my car in 30 minutes, and it shines like a mirror. Like, O.M.G. And it smells like coconut!
Since this is my first really special car, I have to admit that I enjoyed the warm spring evening, polishing the car in the driveway. After all these years, I think I understand car guys.
When I drive down the road, my car says "I'm special and my mommy loves me."

fumbling

Would these waterless washes be helpful to use after "no-touch" automatic car washes that get most of the dirt off?

ttx350z

I do this often as I live in an apartment where I don't have a water spigot.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

I'll share with you a little impromptu test we did once with touchless auto car washes found at some gas stations. They suggest high pressure water and soap will remove all dirt without any agitation or movement. We took one of our white MF gloves. We ran the car thru several different touchless washes and then wiped an area like the hood and sides with the glove. The outcome ..... a lot of dirt !

I would highly suggest refraining from them to truly clean a car. The water is filtered (if your lucky the filters are replaced often) and the soap does not contain the ingredients needed to effectively loosen and remove dirt.

With a rinseless wash, you are still using some pressure and movement when using the MF towels with the product. A rinseless or waterless wash also contains ingredients which start to release and loosen dirt. That's why it most will suggest a presoak spray even when use a rinseless wash and bucket of water.

ronkh57

Just as a point or reference..... Touchless washes use hydrofluoric acid to aid in dirt removal (not well for that matter). They spray it on w soap, let it dwell for a short time then powerwash it off. (it will also usually leave a film of stuff and dirt)...... It's also what causes some trim to turn funny colors that ya can't buff out. It can also screw up paint and glass. Here is a warning from Honda about it. Probably other manufs have similar warnings.

Jimnc

Based on the information in this thread I will no longer use the touchless car wash which is a shame since it was so convenient. Bought some Meguiar's Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere and tried it this weekend. Very pleased with the results. My car is garaged and usually covered so it rarely gets more than a light dusting on it so the bottle wash is all that needs.

0Killrwheels@Autogeek

its a great product, and when used properly should offer exactly what you need. Might even save you some $$ long term too