Paint corection then? Coatings or Wax/Polish?
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Paint corection then? Coatings or Wax/Polish?
I'm considering a coating after having paint correction done on my car. I have no experience with coatings, I've always paint corrected with Menzerna products then used Zaino or black fire. I won't be doing the coatings my self, looking at detail shops in the area.
So what are the pros/cons to doing a coating? Looking at Opti coat, but open to others depending on what the shop offers. Or should I stick to what I know and put Zaino, Black fire or some other polish/sealant on after paint correction
Thanks in advance!
So what are the pros/cons to doing a coating? Looking at Opti coat, but open to others depending on what the shop offers. Or should I stick to what I know and put Zaino, Black fire or some other polish/sealant on after paint correction
Thanks in advance!
#2
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I seriously think only you can answer that. Each has it's positive's and negatives. I personally prefer not to install coatings( on my own). Durability of the coatings far exceed what a sealant can do let alone a true wax. I like the time spent applying sealants and wax's as I find it stress relieving
Many of today's coating have become much more user friendly. Opti-Gloss, Wolfgang Uber, and the list goes on. These offer a year or 2 protection and maybe longer depending on conditions. Many can be topped for a little extra "pop" and longevity. Of course you still need to apply proper wash techniques to reduce marring. You want to make sure the surface is as defect free as possible as you will be trapping these under the coatings.
If you really want to try one I'd suggest to polish that baby and apply some Wolfgang Uber yourself !
Many of today's coating have become much more user friendly. Opti-Gloss, Wolfgang Uber, and the list goes on. These offer a year or 2 protection and maybe longer depending on conditions. Many can be topped for a little extra "pop" and longevity. Of course you still need to apply proper wash techniques to reduce marring. You want to make sure the surface is as defect free as possible as you will be trapping these under the coatings.
If you really want to try one I'd suggest to polish that baby and apply some Wolfgang Uber yourself !
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I'm considering a coating after having paint correction done on my car. I have no experience with coatings, I've always paint corrected with Menzerna products then used Zaino or black fire. I won't be doing the coatings my self, looking at detail shops in the area.
So what are the pros/cons to doing a coating? Looking at Opti coat, but open to others depending on what the shop offers. Or should I stick to what I know and put Zaino, Black fire or some other polish/sealant on after paint correction
Thanks in advance!
So what are the pros/cons to doing a coating? Looking at Opti coat, but open to others depending on what the shop offers. Or should I stick to what I know and put Zaino, Black fire or some other polish/sealant on after paint correction
Thanks in advance!
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the coatings. I guess it works for those that don't want to spend the time detailing. They look fine but I just find it hard to beat Zaino Clear Sealant followed by Z8 Grand Finale. Simple to use and the shine just pops. Just did my new Z06. Believe it or not, it took me less than 20 minutes to apply Clear Seal and Z8 to the entire car. Maintenance to keep the shine between detailings is simple with Z6 spray detailer.
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The challenge to any coating is two fold, and its been shown here above in several posts.
1. unknown ... some suggest the product isn't for them and wont offer the look they have become accustomed too. Unfortunately this is true with a lot of products we use and consider the best, its personal preference not necessarily solid in proof. "It couldn't possibly be better, could it ??"
2. reduced time/effort .... this is clearly why a coating is often preferential to most in that the protection last significantly longer and better than traditional waxes and sealants. If you find it relaxing and desired to detail then unfortunately a coating will slow the need for polishing and protecting. I suppose some still prefer to chisel that original Turtle Wax paste off ....
What I will also share is that a coating is often no harder to apply then any other product, and when applied properly (thin and even) there is little to no buffing needed. So a product that protects better, longer, easier to use, and often looks good or better than the best sealants today .... what's not to like. It also is the newest technology and in its infancy. Soon the hydrophobic ingredient will get stronger and less with adhere to it. Add in that it doesn't contain the oils of a traditional wax, and you will likely also see some anti-static ability to reduce dust/dirt. It does take a minute to get used to when the dirt is contained above the paint and often slides right off when presoaking and rinsing with a stream of water however.
I have not found a coating that is hard to apply and remove, but some are indeed almost infallible. Wolfgang Uber and Opticoat Gloss Coat are two that are incredible in look, and easiest to apply and remove The cost upfront is slightly higher than most products, but reduced need of product will contain some of the cost. The extra time afforded to family and other hobbies might make it easier to handle also.
1. unknown ... some suggest the product isn't for them and wont offer the look they have become accustomed too. Unfortunately this is true with a lot of products we use and consider the best, its personal preference not necessarily solid in proof. "It couldn't possibly be better, could it ??"
2. reduced time/effort .... this is clearly why a coating is often preferential to most in that the protection last significantly longer and better than traditional waxes and sealants. If you find it relaxing and desired to detail then unfortunately a coating will slow the need for polishing and protecting. I suppose some still prefer to chisel that original Turtle Wax paste off ....
What I will also share is that a coating is often no harder to apply then any other product, and when applied properly (thin and even) there is little to no buffing needed. So a product that protects better, longer, easier to use, and often looks good or better than the best sealants today .... what's not to like. It also is the newest technology and in its infancy. Soon the hydrophobic ingredient will get stronger and less with adhere to it. Add in that it doesn't contain the oils of a traditional wax, and you will likely also see some anti-static ability to reduce dust/dirt. It does take a minute to get used to when the dirt is contained above the paint and often slides right off when presoaking and rinsing with a stream of water however.
I have not found a coating that is hard to apply and remove, but some are indeed almost infallible. Wolfgang Uber and Opticoat Gloss Coat are two that are incredible in look, and easiest to apply and remove The cost upfront is slightly higher than most products, but reduced need of product will contain some of the cost. The extra time afforded to family and other hobbies might make it easier to handle also.
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Once your paint correction is perfect, then I use 22ple glass. I know it cuts down waxing but it also cuts down on the time spent behind my Rupes. The coating offers more protection and lasts much longer.
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Wash,clay bar, Megs 105, Megs205, Blackfire cleaner, and DP coating. I top It occasionally with Zaino CS and a detail spray. Easiest part of this process is applying the coating.
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Some coating companies suggest the application will reduce potential marring. I don't know that a micron of protection can actually do so. What I offer is learning good washing and drying techniques is the best way to avoid marring and swirls. Then the protection you've applied can protect properly and hopefully avoid the need to reapply as often.
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the coatings. I guess it works for those that don't want to spend the time detailing. They look fine but I just find it hard to beat Zaino Clear Sealant followed by Z8 Grand Finale. Simple to use and the shine just pops. Just did my new Z06. Believe it or not, it took me less than 20 minutes to apply Clear Seal and Z8 to the entire car. Maintenance to keep the shine between detailings is simple with Z6 spray detailer.
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I've been using Chadwicks for a few months now and love it. I used ADAMS paint correction because Chadwicks hadn't come out yet. What do you think?
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I used 22PLE on my wife's black SUV - in January 2014 then again in January 2016 to date - no swirl marks, scratches
wash weekly, dry with my yard blower then wipe down with Meguiar's ultimate detail love the shine - I believe in ceramic coating -
wash weekly, dry with my yard blower then wipe down with Meguiar's ultimate detail love the shine - I believe in ceramic coating -
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The challenge to any coating is two fold, and its been shown here above in several posts.
1. unknown ... some suggest the product isn't for them and wont offer the look they have become accustomed too. Unfortunately this is true with a lot of products we use and consider the best, its personal preference not necessarily solid in proof. "It couldn't possibly be better, could it ??"
2. reduced time/effort .... this is clearly why a coating is often preferential to most in that the protection last significantly longer and better than traditional waxes and sealants. If you find it relaxing and desired to detail then unfortunately a coating will slow the need for polishing and protecting. I suppose some still prefer to chisel that original Turtle Wax paste off ....
What I will also share is that a coating is often no harder to apply then any other product, and when applied properly (thin and even) there is little to no buffing needed. So a product that protects better, longer, easier to use, and often looks good or better than the best sealants today .... what's not to like. It also is the newest technology and in its infancy. Soon the hydrophobic ingredient will get stronger and less with adhere to it. Add in that it doesn't contain the oils of a traditional wax, and you will likely also see some anti-static ability to reduce dust/dirt. It does take a minute to get used to when the dirt is contained above the paint and often slides right off when presoaking and rinsing with a stream of water however.
I have not found a coating that is hard to apply and remove, but some are indeed almost infallible. Wolfgang Uber and Opticoat Gloss Coat are two that are incredible in look, and easiest to apply and remove The cost upfront is slightly higher than most products, but reduced need of product will contain some of the cost. The extra time afforded to family and other hobbies might make it easier to handle also.
1. unknown ... some suggest the product isn't for them and wont offer the look they have become accustomed too. Unfortunately this is true with a lot of products we use and consider the best, its personal preference not necessarily solid in proof. "It couldn't possibly be better, could it ??"
2. reduced time/effort .... this is clearly why a coating is often preferential to most in that the protection last significantly longer and better than traditional waxes and sealants. If you find it relaxing and desired to detail then unfortunately a coating will slow the need for polishing and protecting. I suppose some still prefer to chisel that original Turtle Wax paste off ....
What I will also share is that a coating is often no harder to apply then any other product, and when applied properly (thin and even) there is little to no buffing needed. So a product that protects better, longer, easier to use, and often looks good or better than the best sealants today .... what's not to like. It also is the newest technology and in its infancy. Soon the hydrophobic ingredient will get stronger and less with adhere to it. Add in that it doesn't contain the oils of a traditional wax, and you will likely also see some anti-static ability to reduce dust/dirt. It does take a minute to get used to when the dirt is contained above the paint and often slides right off when presoaking and rinsing with a stream of water however.
I have not found a coating that is hard to apply and remove, but some are indeed almost infallible. Wolfgang Uber and Opticoat Gloss Coat are two that are incredible in look, and easiest to apply and remove The cost upfront is slightly higher than most products, but reduced need of product will contain some of the cost. The extra time afforded to family and other hobbies might make it easier to handle also.
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