Its time.........
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Its time.........
ok, its been over 3 years since I have owned the black Z06. I have taken occasional care but not too much. I have clayed it when it was new and have had multiple Zaino coats. I have Zainoed it every 6 months or so. But now it doesn;t look as good so I need to find out how do I restore??
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks. Oh and it also has water marks and bunch of other crap that you would get on your daily driver in over three years.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks. Oh and it also has water marks and bunch of other crap that you would get on your daily driver in over three years.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Last edited by z06 Rules; 09-21-2004 at 06:36 PM.
#2
Safety Car
Originally Posted by z06 Rules
ok, its been over 3 years since I have owned the black Z06. I have taken occasional care but not too much. I have clayed it when it was new and have had multiple Zaino coats. I have Zainoed it every 6 months or so. But now it doesn;t look as good so I need to find out how do I restore??
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Zaino is not a wax it is a sealant and as such will not be removed with a dishwashing liquid. Dont believe that hogwash....
1. Wash --- Clean car with a good carwash soap.
2. Clay --- Use lots of liquid and cover each area until smooth, this will also remove alot of the sealant.
3. Dry Car
4. Polish --- this will remove small surface scratches and marring from the finish. It will also remove any remaining protectant.
5. Seal --- Wax or sealant , your choice. You miss the rich depth and wetness then look to a carnuba but you will need to apply more often.
#3
Racer
Thread Starter
Thanks for your reply. So I have missed polish in the whole equation and apparently have never polished my car.
I have always Zainoed it. So which polish is recommended?? Can polish be done by hand or does it require the machine that the detailers use?
I have always Zainoed it. So which polish is recommended?? Can polish be done by hand or does it require the machine that the detailers use?
#5
Instructor
Just spent a day on my new 04 Z06, claying and applying Zaino. Noticed after claying and washing with Zaino wash that I could still feel small bumps in some areas, but only when using my hand in a saran baggie. No dragging, just not smooth. If I used my bare hand the finsih felt smooth. Due time of year and limited driving time left I sealed with Z2.
Is the rough feel normal, should I re clay and polish next spring and then apply the Zaino product. Am I being too critcal with a plastic car finish? Hope these comments are consistant with this thread.
Is the rough feel normal, should I re clay and polish next spring and then apply the Zaino product. Am I being too critcal with a plastic car finish? Hope these comments are consistant with this thread.
#6
Safety Car
Originally Posted by jrh009
Is the rough feel normal, should I re clay and polish next spring and then apply the Zaino product. Am I being too critcal with a plastic car finish? Hope these comments are consistant with this thread.
You are very correct, you need to clay. Some contaments are larger and will studder, others are smaller and will slightly snag. When you clay you will rub alot of lubricant over the area and then glide, not grind, the clay over the area. When its so slipperly it feels it might just shoot out of your hand, you are done. Now imagine every nook and cranny on the car. (You might need all winter, just joking) You will only need to do this step every 8-12 months under normal use and slightly less if car is a garage queen or king.
As for polishes , you should benefit yourself by purchasing a Porter Cable 7336 or 7424. It is a speed changable "orbital" buffer and will help remove minor scratches and marring while being very hard to do any real damage. Using a "rotary" like the professionals is best left for someone understanding them as they can "burn" the paint.
Some real good polishes .... Einszett Paint Polish (Green Can), Menzerna Final Polish and the Poorboys SSR line. Unfortunately you cannot purchase all three at the same store, so your gonna need to pick one ... try www.detailersparadise.com , www.properautocare.com and www.autogeek.net for same order.
As said above Pinnacle Paintwork Lotion is a very good "chemical" cleaner and "filler". It chemically strips contaminents and it hides surface scratches but it will NOT remove them the way an abrasive polish will. (those above). Pinnacle does have abrasive polishes like Swirl Remover and Advanced Swirl Remover, and while I have them, I have not tried currently. www.pinnaclewax.com
#7
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#8
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Originally Posted by fast95vette
"So which polish is recommended??"
Pinnacle makes a great polish called paintwork cleansing lotion give that a try.
Pinnacle makes a great polish called paintwork cleansing lotion give that a try.
That polish won't really remove swirls and restore all of the shine. Something like Menzerna, Poorboy's, Einzett, etc. is needed for that.
#9
Team Owner
Originally Posted by ZaneO
That polish won't really remove swirls and restore all of the shine. Something like Menzerna, Poorboy's, Einzett, etc. is needed for that.
Last edited by LS WON; 09-21-2004 at 11:59 PM. Reason: additional info
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Originally Posted by z06 Rules
ok, its been over 3 years since I have owned the black Z06. I have taken occasional care but not too much. I have clayed it when it was new and have had multiple Zaino coats. I have Zainoed it every 6 months or so. But now it doesn;t look as good so I need to find out how do I restore??
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks. Oh and it also has water marks and bunch of other crap that you would get on your daily driver in over three years.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My take is to wash it with dish washing soap to take all the wax off. Clay it and then put few coats of wax on it. What do you guys think???
The paint is not smooth at all now and does have quite a few swirl marks. Oh and it also has water marks and bunch of other crap that you would get on your daily driver in over three years.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
If you have a buffer 3M Scratch and Swirl Remover will do a good job on any swirl marks or light to medium scratches, it will also remove any water marks. You can pick that up at most Pep Boys stores.
#12
Racer
Thread Starter
Thanks for all of your replies. I think I will be doing it this weekend.
I have a 3M swirl remover already sitting in the garage. So if I decided to use that would I use it after step 3 of kllrwheels process??? and then step 4??
I have a 3M swirl remover already sitting in the garage. So if I decided to use that would I use it after step 3 of kllrwheels process??? and then step 4??
#14
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Originally Posted by z06 Rules
Thanks for all of your replies. I think I will be doing it this weekend.
I have a 3M swirl remover already sitting in the garage. So if I decided to use that would I use it after step 3 of kllrwheels process??? and then step 4??
I have a 3M swirl remover already sitting in the garage. So if I decided to use that would I use it after step 3 of kllrwheels process??? and then step 4??
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From my observation for 16 years the Liquid Glass has done it all to up this very date. I rarely have to wash it perhaps a few times a year and polishing maybe if not once a year. After 16 years it still is pristine condition and beads off water. fyi...