Help with DRM brake duct install
#1
Burning Brakes
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Help with DRM brake duct install
I am having a problem getting a set of Doug Rippie brake ducts installed on my 2004 Coupe. I don’t know if I did something incorrectly or if there is some problem with installing these on a 2004. I run 17 inch ZO6 Factory Reproductions front wheels but I have seen nothing to indicate the DRM ducts will not work with 17 inch front wheels.
I searched and looked at three postings by others before I did the install so I did attempt to inform myself as much as possible before I started. I also looked carefully at some pictures of other installs to help me determine the location of the exit point on the duct.
I have the car up on jack stands so the suspension is completely unloaded but when I turn the front of the wheel toward the frame the tire hits the outlet on the duct before I reach full lock. As you can see in the photo taken under the car the duct does not even come close to clearing the tire much less the wheel. I have the duct as far toward the shock absorber as it will go and as far down as I dare go. As it is I am right up against the bracket that surrounds the shock. If I move any further down I will not be able to attach to the frame and I will interfere with the steering link they runs under the duct.
I discovered the problem this evening so I have not contacted DRM yet because they are closed. I thought someone on the forum might be able to help.
Thanks
I searched and looked at three postings by others before I did the install so I did attempt to inform myself as much as possible before I started. I also looked carefully at some pictures of other installs to help me determine the location of the exit point on the duct.
I have the car up on jack stands so the suspension is completely unloaded but when I turn the front of the wheel toward the frame the tire hits the outlet on the duct before I reach full lock. As you can see in the photo taken under the car the duct does not even come close to clearing the tire much less the wheel. I have the duct as far toward the shock absorber as it will go and as far down as I dare go. As it is I am right up against the bracket that surrounds the shock. If I move any further down I will not be able to attach to the frame and I will interfere with the steering link they runs under the duct.
I discovered the problem this evening so I have not contacted DRM yet because they are closed. I thought someone on the forum might be able to help.
Thanks
#3
Team Owner
Drm ducts
From your photos you have mounted yours about 1 1/2" lower than I mounted mine and about 1 1/2" toward the rear of the car further than mine. I had to cut off about 1 1/2" more of the duct than the DRM instructions say, this allowed me to move the duct forward and gave me the clearance I needed. I don't know of anyone who hasn't had a lot of trouble with the install, but once they're in they work well. And yes they do work with 17" wheels.
Last edited by tiojames; 06-13-2006 at 10:41 PM.
#4
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by SFVetteman
You might have better luck with this in the autocross & roadracing section.
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With the suspension unloaded the wheel will rub.
Drop the car down on it's wheels and then check. You may find it still rubs slightly so wrap the hose with duct tape near the DRM duct ... and try not to go full lock.
Good Luck.
Drop the car down on it's wheels and then check. You may find it still rubs slightly so wrap the hose with duct tape near the DRM duct ... and try not to go full lock.
Good Luck.
#6
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by tiojames
From your photos you have mounted yours about 1 1/2" lower than I mounted mine and about 1 1/2" toward the rear of the car further than mine. I had to cut off about 1 1/2" more of the duct than the DRM instructions say, this allowed me to move the duct forward and gave me the clearance I needed. I don't know of anyone who hasn't had a lot of trouble with the install, but once they're in they work well. And yes they do work with 17" wheels.
#7
worst case scenario, you can heat the duct over the stove and bend it backwards to gain more clearance. But I would talk with DRM first. Can you add a 1/2" spacer to the front end to shift it rearward?
#10
Burning Brakes
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Ok, so I buttoned everything up and put the car on the ground. At ground level and full lock the edge of the wheel hits the outer lip and the duct hose just a little. I am thinking that normally the suspension is not going to unload when the wheel is turned to the inside, just the oppisite. So maybe this is ok? I am going to try it for a while and see what happens.
Wish me luck.
Wish me luck.
#11
Safety Car
Originally Posted by LeMansBlue04
Ok, so I buttoned everything up and put the car on the ground. At ground level and full lock the edge of the wheel hits the outer lip and the duct hose just a little. I am thinking that normally the suspension is not going to unload when the wheel is turned to the inside, just the oppisite. So maybe this is ok? I am going to try it for a while and see what happens.
Wish me luck.
Wish me luck.
#12
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Yea that seems to be the case. I drove about 30 miles today with no obvious problems. Like you say just stay away from full lock if you can. I added a set of DIY spindle ducts plus Wilwood rotors while I was in there. So far so good.
Perhaps an 18 inch wheel would help. I wish I had known better when I bought the wheels. An 18 inch wheel would have let me run a bigger rotor as well. What can I say, "live & learn."
Perhaps an 18 inch wheel would help. I wish I had known better when I bought the wheels. An 18 inch wheel would have let me run a bigger rotor as well. What can I say, "live & learn."
#13
Team Owner
DRM ducts
My wheels do not rub the ducts, but as I posted my ducts are cut off 1 1/2" more than yours and the duct is mounted forward and higher than the picture you have of yours.
#14
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by tiojames
My wheels do not rub the ducts, but as I posted my ducts are cut off 1 1/2" more than yours and the duct is mounted forward and higher than the picture you have of yours.
#15
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by LeMansBlue04
Perhaps an 18 inch wheel would help. I wish I had known better when I bought the wheels. An 18 inch wheel would have let me run a bigger rotor as well. What can I say, "live & learn."
#17
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by vms4evr
This is where mine is located. No rubbing when the car is lowered. The upper A-arm just barely touches the end of the duct when lifted at full suspension droop.
DRM Duct
DRM Duct
#18
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by LeMansBlue04
Thanks for the pic. Apparently this is pretty nuanced so that a small change in position can lead to more clearance.
#19
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the help. Yesterday I drove the car up on a set of ramps because I was putting in a larger trans cooler. I turnd the wheels to full lock just to check again and everything is clearing now.
I suppose everything has had a chance to settle since I did the install but it does clear the wheels now. Not by much mind you but enough to get the job done. I also did the DIY spindle ducts. These are going to work very well.
I suppose everything has had a chance to settle since I did the install but it does clear the wheels now. Not by much mind you but enough to get the job done. I also did the DIY spindle ducts. These are going to work very well.