joemoia

I know this is beating a dead horse but I can't resist. Pierre Kleinubing is running an ACURA TSX in this year's SWC Touring Car Series. His qualifying and race results thru the 5 races so far are:


Qual: 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st.

race: 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st.

Number of competition adjustments to the Acura: 0



CF's own John Shiels started a thread over on the SCCA Pro Board concerning the Corvette Comp. adjustments which has ignited quite a discussion, with LG posting several replys.

http://www.world-challenge.com/forum...er=asc&start=0


Read LG's post (4th page, 8th post down) with references to the corvette and corvette drivers vs. Kleinubing, Its hilarious

AU N EGL

Man some serious : going on over there.

Slalom4me

Not any more, at least in that thread ...

I wonder why he didn't just cut it short by saying:
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AU N EGL

WOW, that B*STERD realy has an ego and gets hurt like a littly boy when he is wrong and publicly humilated.

Personally, I would do what most businesses do, Get a lawyer and sue.



So who are the sponsors of the series ???

ghoffman

I have stayed out of this, having worked with several of the parties involved, but cutting off the discussion is ridiculous and reminiscent of something North Korea would do (Kim Jung-Prill?). It is not like anyone started to be vulgar or anything, it was a civil discussion with facts and opinions. Can SCCA do anything correctly (remember Can-Am, Trans-Am)?

Slalom4me

While Mr Prill chose an untimely point to close the thread,
(Had another person been in this position, they might have waited
until someone posted something outrageous before they spiked the
thread - they might even have arranged for the outrageous comment
to have been posted so that they could appear to be taking the moral
high ground) it is a well-established practice for the powerful side
not to let itself be baited into fighting issues in a public arena.

I don't pretend to begin to know what goes on behind the curtains
but I am inclined to believe that the script for this drama has
already been published
A phrase from the book that keeps ringing in my ears is the advice
that Mr. Detweiller gave Smokey at an early age about what it takes
to have the upper hand in a negotiation so that 'their hearts and
minds will follow'. Through out his narrative, Smokey mentions several
times about how looking down to see which side of that equation he was
on helped determine his course of action at times in his life.

Words to live by, IMO.

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Slalom4me

Noticed this:


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JRD77VET

From an outsider looking in , they seem to be able to run series into the ground.

Slalom4me

The logos and links of these organizations appear at
the bottom of the Speed World Challenge web site.
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FB#1

It realy makes the SCCA look like the kid who brings the ball to the game. His ball, his rules, no explanations.

varkwso

Does not inspire me want to build a SCCA legal car for any series - but they do seem partial to rice....

One Lap - may not get a trophy or sponsors but at least there is not a rules committee - just Brock......

ghoffman

Thanks! I assume from your handle you were a right seater in F-111's? I worked on SparkVarks a little at McClellan...

varkwso

Amongst other aircraft I flew for the USAF and USAFR - I flew F-111 A, D, E, and F models - but never flew the Spark Vark.....I test flew F-111's at McClellan a little back when it was a depot for us...

ghoffman

Thank you! You guys did a great job in '86 in Libya (among others of course). It was a great Warsaw Pack BBQ machine. I am jealous, almost nothing could run with them on the deck. They are in still service with the RAAF and for the Aussies it seems like an ideal A/C. Again, thanks for your service.

LG Motorsports

Guys,

Thanks for all the concern. I am really beside myself. But, we did go testing yesterday and picked up the performance a bit. Not enought to overcome 190 pounds but some of it anyway.

I think I figured out the problem in GT. There are just not the good drivers in the GT class that there were in prior years.

No Max Papis, No Max Angelelli, No Wolf Henzler, No Liddell, Archer is missing in action with his new team and no Audi Turbo AWD to skew the curve. So it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

So we came back to the WC GT series ready to do battle with the best, and they didn't show up. So we were the fast man standing, and now they have to crush us to dumb down the competition. I think it is that simple.

Caddy came back with a spread sheet to determine where they had to finish each race, so their drivers are racing under orders, which is not racing. Fellows will win one of the next two races. Angelelli will be back for Atlanta, and Liddell will be back in the P car 997 for Atlanta and Laguna.

So the new adjustments to my car will keep me from being competitive with the fast guys that will be coming in for tha last two rounds. And it will keep me off Fellows bumper for Mosport.

I think it is that simple. They have leaded up my Corvette to keep us from beating rookies, part timers and new teams needing a crutch.

The way the Corvette came into the series this year would have been in a good fight if the "Fast" guys came back. But the series chased them away with the politics also.

Thanks again guys.

LG

PS, On the bright side for the Corvette, Leighton's Corvette will weigh 140 pounds less than my car for Road America. Just another rule for cars that finish poorly get weight off. So there should be one Corvette that does well. (that will mess up their minds)