Ceramic coating my headers... goood or bad?
08-14-2006, 02:26 PM
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Ceramic coating my headers... goood or bad?
This quote came from Chuck at HPE... what do you all think? I was about to order Kooks race headers (no AIR tubes) and have them ceramic coated to keep under hood temps down a bit. Should help keep everything far cooler.
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Another thing we could go into is coatings, and how much I dislike them on headers 
Ceramic coated headers always seem to cause detonation. Why? Well everybody jumps on this bandwagon of wanting to keep underhood temps down. Which is great, I love it, whatever you can do to keep underhood temps down is going to help make the motor produce more power. But what we're doing by ceramic coating the headers is we are locking that heat inside the exhaust... Not allowing it to dissipate... This heat now acts as an agent in producing detonation. Almost every car I've ever tuned that had ceramic coated headers, was not able to take as much ignition timing as a car with uncoated stainless steel headers. So the power was greatly reduced because instead of tuning for all out power, I had to tune for detonation. Extra fuel, and less timing... Things that have a great effect on what kinds numbers your car will put down on the dyno, and at the track.
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Ceramic coated headers always seem to cause detonation. Why? Well everybody jumps on this bandwagon of wanting to keep underhood temps down. Which is great, I love it, whatever you can do to keep underhood temps down is going to help make the motor produce more power. But what we're doing by ceramic coating the headers is we are locking that heat inside the exhaust... Not allowing it to dissipate... This heat now acts as an agent in producing detonation. Almost every car I've ever tuned that had ceramic coated headers, was not able to take as much ignition timing as a car with uncoated stainless steel headers. So the power was greatly reduced because instead of tuning for all out power, I had to tune for detonation. Extra fuel, and less timing... Things that have a great effect on what kinds numbers your car will put down on the dyno, and at the track.Chuck @ HPE
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08-14-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
This quote came from Chuck at HPE... what do you all think? I was about to order Kooks race headers (no AIR tubes) and have them ceramic coated to keep under hood temps down a bit. Should help keep everything far cooler.
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08-14-2006, 02:38 PM
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Isn't keeping the heat inside the pipe until the exit the goal, and to make the most power? That just what racers have been doing since I rember. But I guess everyone can be wrong.
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08-14-2006, 03:01 PM
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Unless you need those 2 extra ponies, getting the heat out of the engine bay and the foot well is a good idea
I have ceramic TPIS, minimal heat in the foot wells.
I have ceramic TPIS, minimal heat in the foot wells.
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I think it would be best if he could quantify how much he's taking out of the timing between the 2 header types mentioned.
Personally I dont see any reason to not have them coated in/out, it really makes temps drop.
Personally I dont see any reason to not have them coated in/out, it really makes temps drop.
08-14-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
This quote came from Chuck at HPE... what do you all think? I was about to order Kooks race headers (no AIR tubes) and have them ceramic coated to keep under hood temps down a bit. Should help keep everything far cooler.
Heat has not been a problem with the coatless Kooks.
The ceramic looked better.
joel
