larryfs

http://tinyurl.com/2u9scp

Mr turbo rotary

Stupid. Fine them, toss them in jail etc but confiscation is bs. It starts with racing, then moves to DUI's and on down the line.

Aardwolf

They can't get a DUI without a car.

WNDOPDLR

I disagree. Fines and tickets have not worked. The penelty may be a little stiff for a first time offense, but on the other hand, it could be my wife or kids that they take out with their stupidity. WE are a good example of people that need to vent their competative sprit and excercise their cars, but WE have found a relatively safe place to vent. The article points out, rather late in it's column, that there are better, safer, cheaper places than the street. While I am on a here, I feel the same way about repeat DUI offenders. I don't see why I need to share the street with someone who cannot contro their own actions.

robvuk

At first, it bothered me that they would crush someone's pride and joy and property. But when the article mentioned that they were comprised of stolen parts, I had no problem with it.

Gatorac

This I have a problem with. "He was in an area were street racers gather"??? They "suspected" some of the parts were stolen??? So his car was crushed.

What happened to Innocent until proven guilty?

So, if you happen to be driving your Vette in an area were street racing happens, and the cops find a sticker missing on your car, you get crushed????

How about if you leave the light faster then grandma in her Escort and the cop says you were street racing?

VetteDrmr

Gatorac,

Take a breath; the article said the police have to have a court order before crushing a car, all three people involved implied they had been involved in street racing, and whether you pay for stolen parts or steal them yourself, you're responsible. Don't believe it, buy a stolen vehicle and try to get it registered. They'll confiscate the vehicle and return it to its rightful owner.

I believe (no proof, but still believe) that the police had no doubt and plenty of evidence the cars crushed were involved in street racing.

My rule with my son is: 1.) if he's caught street racing, I sell his car and keep the money, and 2.) as long as he's clean, I'll pay for any legit racing he wants to do: registration, gas, and food. So far, so good.

Have a good one,
Mike

Aardwolf

"said a vehicle identification sticker apparently fell off"

Sounds pretty lame to me.

Gatorac

They don't crush it though.

VetteDrmr

Perhaps not, my point was the comment that "well, I bought the part fair and square (a paraphrase)" doesn't mean anything if the part was stolen.

From different reports of this story one thing came through to me: the police had tried several different approaches, from confiscating and selling the car (ended up costing them more money, and they found the car right back on the street racing), to parting the car out. They didn't find any of these approaches very successful, and one thing to be said about crushing the car: at least that's ONE that they won't have to deal with in the future.

Gatorac

The cars are not at fault. The driver is. You don't crush guns for shooting people. Even if you did it wouldn't reduce gun violence.

MazdaRob

Instead of crushing sell them cheap to lawful car owners and use the profits to go to a victims fund or something.

John Shiels

I have seen enough people killed on Long Island street racing or just going excessively fast in congested high traffic areas. Last accident they didn't even know how many were in the car until the counted the pieces

ZBRA

DUIs would be a great place to start! Crush every car on the road being driven by a drunk, and leave the POS drunk driver in the car when you crush it.

No one, and I mean NO ONE has the right to jeopardize the lives of my wife and kids because they don't want to drink at home.

I in no way endorse street racing, but this country's "everybody does it" attitude towards drinking and driving has killed many many more people than street racing ever will.

Cbntmn

Im pretty sure this discussion was about street racing, and im not going to argue the drunk driving thing.

To a certain extent I agree with the cars getting taken away, especially with the attitude of the drivers. Not one of them said "man i hate to see my car crushed but i did a stupid thing and i sure have learned a lesson"

I love "my mom spent 10k fixing this car up" You idiot. Nice way to pay her back.

Its amazing how the article really doesnt play hard on how stupid these kids are for doing this, how of the 13 people that died there are parents missing thier 16 year olds or mothers that died stupidly because of some kid street racing. Nooo, they talk about how its not going to stop the racing and how bad these kids feel to have their "girlfriend, best friend, love of thier life" taken away. What a bunch of garbage.

I do believe they should be auctioned off and the money go to charity. Take them to the local racetrack, have a raffle for 5 dollar per ticket, raise the cash, and give it to charity or something.

Loosing their license also would not be a bad idea, and is probably already being done.

If that many people have died then they have to do something drastic. These are kids who barely belong driving cars, let alone one with 350 hp, and obviosly are not responsible enough to own one.

I remember i got pulled over for going 45 in a 35 when i was 16. got a ticket. My mom took my car away for a month, i was scared to death to just get another speeding ticket. These kids parents probably blame it all on the cops.

TLGunman

It least they wait until a crime has been committed, before they crush the car. Canada wants to crush them, just for being hot rodded...

http://www.nugget.ca/webapp/sitepage...orial&classif=

VetteDrmr

Well said. I thought the article(s) written almost got into the "fast and furious" mindset. These poor kids, losing everything that made life worth living, blah, blah, blah, really missed the boat.

OTOH, when was the last time the media got something that you know about correct, anyway?

Have a good one,
Mike

Cbntmn

You got that right. Its amazing once you learn to see through the BS they throw at you how much of it is out there.

I dont believe this is a thing where the govt is trying to take some kind of civil liberty away and it will lead to taking our cars for looking like a hot rod. This is a highly illegal activity that is being carried on by kids who barely know how to drive.

All the more reason to open more race tracks. Support race tracks being open late on Friday and Saturday nights for the kids to go and get this done. If they would just understand the danger.

Unfortunetly some kid will get killed at the race track for some stupid reason and the parents will sue the track. I know waivers are signed, but understand people still sue and the track still has to pay the 200 bucks an hour for an attorney.

Vicious circle.

Im taking my 12 year old and getting him into karts. Then when he turns 15 im going to buy him a Miata so he can go run on the big tracks with me. Then we will see from there. He will probably be the most experienced driver in his school. Hopefully the track time will teach him to keep his foot there, not on the road. (either that or he will be riding a bicycle to school at 18 years old!)

Gatorac

This is a much better solution to the problem. Crushing a car that mamma bought won't teach them anything. Give them some place safe to race. Have some thing there that they can't get on the street. Maybe instruction, parts, I don't know, something to make them want to race there. Street racing has been around as long as there have been cars.

0Randy@DRM

THE MIND OF A 18 YEAR OLD, CAR CRAZY NUT.

Well it's Friday night, I'm young, have a fast little car. All my buddies will be out running around in fast little cars. Well sence there is no place to race. Lets do it on the streets!!! Sometimes you get caught sometimes you don't, but still better then the track. Why head to the track 3 hours away just to try a new setup, or really push a car. The girls are all out hanging at the street races too. IF I break something, I will just go borrow it off a car sitting in some parking lot. Well maybe I should just steal the whole car. Less chances of getting caught.

This idea of street racing has been going on for years and years. The biggest issue is more and more people have the need for speed. This is due to video games, more racing on TV, the internet, and of course street racing.

So the cops crush a few cars. Will this stop the problems that come with street racing? Hell NO!

Build more tracks is the only way of combat towards the problem. Not some track 2 plus hours away either, that you need thousands to run at a year. A good safe 1/8 mile in or near every major city. Friday and Saturday nights are a must. Spares can be found at every track very easily too.

What can us racers do. Well start in your own homes, bring the kids to the track. Teach them about driving and car prep. Hopefully they will bite the bait and have safe motoring. Try to see if the kid next door would like to go also. And don't waste your time talking with your investment buddies about a cool close safe money making track. The city will never let it happen. Not in a million years anyways.

I ice race in MN with a honda. I have been to the big street race in MPLS as a spector. I have called three different police stations to find legal tranny for a spare. You should see how hard it is to get a Ice race approved in MN where we have over 10,xxx lakes.

Rant off (for now anyway)
Randy
I'm going to enjoy my racer style friday night by eatting noddles and working on a trick low budjet transmission for my iceracer.