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Old 06-24-2007, 12:28 PM
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I was watching Rolex today on Speed. One of the GXP.R's came in for a pit stop. I assumed they were FWD.

Car took off, spun the rear tires and scooted over a bit. I thought these were production modified?
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Not the Rolex GT cars. They're tube frame cars built by Pratt & Miller.
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Did not know that. Are they built to production car dimensions?

There are Mustangs, GTO's, Porsches, Nissan 350Z, all seem unique wheel bases.
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http://www.pontiac.com/divisional/ne...?pageSection=4

Built to the specifications of the Grand American GT class, the GXP.R features a rear-drive layout and a racing version of the LS2 V-8 engine that produces approximately 450 horsepower (335 kW). It is based on the same Gen IV V-8 engine design as found in the production Grand Prix GXP. The production G6 GXP is powered by a sophisticated, DOHC 3.6L V-6 with variable valve timing that produces approximately 252 horsepower (188 kW).

The GXP.R’s bodywork retains the silhouette of a production G6 GXP, but lightweight, carbon-fiber replica panels are used throughout to reduce overall mass. The stock window glass also is replaced with lighter, shatter-resistant polycarbonate pieces. The body panels are attached to a custom tube-frame chassis, with the front and rear fenders flared to cover the wide, 18-inch wheels and class-spec Hoosier racing tires. Also, a huge rear wing that provides stabilizing downforce is tied into the chassis. It’s not a production-model wing, but the G6 GXP street car has its own distinctive rear spoiler.
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I seem to recall remarks to the effect that an early GXP.R was
built by repaneling a former GTO.R.

SPEED World Challenge Forum
Originally Posted by a4cosmo
Lawson Aschenbach is driving in the Rolex 24 in the Racer's Edge Pontiac
GXP-R. If you don't know, that is the PCM GTO-R built by and rebodied
by Pratt & Miller.
LS1GTO Forum
Originally Posted by Harpo
As far as I know, it may have been rebodied as a GXP.R and run by
The Racer's Edge team. No idea what happened to the Banner Racing GTO.R.
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So all of the cars are custom builts with production bodies?

Reason I ask is there any rules governing how close to the original layout they need to be?

The Porsche running had a rear engine, front gas tank and looked to be a full bodied original car. Same with the RX8 running a rotary motor. The Mustang also seemed to be a full bodied car.

One of the comments was the RX8 was the lightest of the cars out there, if they were all tube frame custom builds wouldn't they be pretty close in weight.


Thanks for the info though, that Pontiac page was the thing I was looking for.
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Grand AM GS rules

http://www.grand-am.com/CONTENT/Docs.../KONIRules.pdf
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
I seem to recall remarks to the effect that an early GXP.R was
built by repaneling a former GTO.R.
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It was stated during the Lime Rock race that the #30 Racers Edge car was a re-bodied GTO.R, and the Banner Engineering GXP.R's were built from the ground up.
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Originally Posted by NoOne
So all of the cars are custom builts with production bodies?

Reason I ask is there any rules governing how close to the original layout they need to be?

The Porsche running had a rear engine, front gas tank and looked to be a full bodied original car. Same with the RX8 running a rotary motor. The Mustang also seemed to be a full bodied car.

One of the comments was the RX8 was the lightest of the cars out there, if they were all tube frame custom builds wouldn't they be pretty close in weight.


Thanks for the info though, that Pontiac page was the thing I was looking for.

Rolex GT regulations allow for either production (prep 1) or tube frame (prep 2) chassis

"The GT class for 2007 will be comprised of two distinct preparation methods, all designed to have cars at a similar competition level for GT class racing.
Prep 1 Unibody GT - This category is reserved for production cars with little or no modifications. Grand American will define each car separately and specify modifications individually.
Prep 2 Semi-Tube GT – This category is for cars with modified production or tube-frame chassis. They may be front-wheel drive cars converted to rear-wheel drive or they may be cars that require physical modifications to be competitive in GT. Specified tube-frame construction is allowed. Alternative engines from the original manufacturer may be approved."

Minimum weights are asigned to each specific car type

Maxda RX8 - 2255 lbs

Porsche - 2525 lbs for a 996, 2700 lbs for a 997

Pontiac & Mustang - 2700 lbs

Rolex GT Rules

http://www.grand-am.com/CONTENT/Docs...07/GTRules.pdf
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Originally Posted by NoOne
Did not know that. Are they built to production car dimensions?

There are Mustangs, GTO's, Porsches, Nissan 350Z, all seem unique wheel bases.
Riley Announces GT Tubeframe Chassis

http://theracesite.com/index.cfm?pag...m_article=9675

http://www.rileytech.com/

Crawford also builds tube-frame GT cars.

http://www.crawfordcomposites.com/

Blackforest Motorsports has a Prep 2 Mustang Cobra GT.

http://www.grand-am.com/News/Article.asp?ID=7291

http://www.blackforestmotorsports.com/

Grand-Am won't allow the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe or the new Mustang FR500GT to race.

Prototype Mustang tested: http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...g-fr500gt.html

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Originally Posted by micro

Grand-Am won't allow the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe or the new Mustang FR500GT to race.
Nor the C6Z06 corvette.
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Ok so some of them are production modified while others are tube frame.

That makes more sense and takes out some of the confusion.
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From an arm-chair perspective, Mid-Ohio was entertaining to watch.

It has to be great for Pontiac to be seen mixing it up so well with the
Zuffenhausen gang. Are the organizers applying remedies aimed
at equalizing performance through the season?

I don't know what today's youth make of the Mustang, but as someone
who followed the original Trans-Am series with great interest in the
late '60's, the lone retro pony car sure had the T-A look nailed for me.

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Nor the C6Z06 corvette.
Curious.

The #57 & #97 Stevenson Motorsports Corvettes are identified as
'Corvette Z06' in the Make/Engine/Chassis column of Rolex car info.

The #43 Team Sahlen & #48 WTF Engineering cars are listed as
'Corvette'

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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
Curious.

The #57 & #97 Stevenson Motorsports Corvettes are identified as
'Corvette Z06' in the Make/Engine/Chassis column of Rolex car info.

The #43 Team Sahlen & #48 WTF Engineering cars are listed as
'Corvette'

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Correct.

The Sahlen corvette is a Georgian Bay chassie with a **** body.

The Stevenson Motorsprots cars are Tommy Riggen's Chassies ( jacksonville FL) with ACP - Corvette Racing Body body.

Both are tube frame cars.

GRAND AM rules will not allow the LS 7 so the engines are LS2s
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Thanks for the clairification.

I missed how the incident developed where the Stevenson #57 (?)
Corvette wound up tight against the pit wall during one of it's stops.
It looked like the crew still managed to change at least one tire on the
driver's side.

Then there was their door problem after the stop. As the commentators
mentioned, the driver must have had a busy time trying to drive and
control the door after it wouldn't latch shut.

Do the Nonnamakers of Team Sahlen participate here on CF? I have
noted their columns in Grassroots Motor Racing and was interested to
see them add a Corvette for 2007.

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Originally Posted by Slalom4me

Do the Nonnamakers of Team Sahlen participate here on CF? I have
noted their columns in Grassroots Motor Racing and was interested to
see them add a Corvette for 2007.

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No - I do seem them occationally on TheRacersForum.com

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Mark Windecker has some nice photos of the Rolex Emco
event at Mid-Ohio last weekend.

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Originally Posted by micro
That is one might fine looking Cobra.


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