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Old 10-03-2007, 08:36 PM
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Sebastien Bourdais, with six victories in 12 starts, has all but wrapped up his fourth consecutive Champ Car title and he’s raked in a paltry $611,000 for Newman/Haas/Lanigan.

Champ Car winner/NASCAR rookie A.J. Allmendinger has missed 17 of 29 races, ranks 44th in the point standings and has amassed $995,632.

As an added insult, Mike Wallace has one Cup start this season and has taken in $4,000 more than Bourdais.
The only think I can't figure out is why every Champ car driver isn't hanging out in the NASCAR garage looking for a ride.
Old 10-03-2007, 08:38 PM
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Champ and IRL did it to themselves.
Old 10-03-2007, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by codename Bil Doe
Champ and IRL did it to themselves.
Tony George did it to himself and all of open-wheel racing in the States.
Old 10-04-2007, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 03Ragtop
The only think I can't figure out is why every Champ car driver isn't hanging out in the NASCAR garage looking for a ride.
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Sebastien Bourdais will get paid what in F-1?

He stated some drivers in Champ car are not even getting paid on Wind Tunnel the other night.
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What ever happened to Paul Tracy's attempt @ Busch/NASCAR?

Also makes me wonder if IRL is paying their drivers much better. I don't watch IRL but when I have tuned into a race, it seems like the cameras go out of their way to not show empty seats.

If you take out indy 500 attendance numbers, the IRL cannot be doing any better than Champ Cars.
Old 10-04-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by codename Bil Doe
Champ and IRL did it to themselves.
The idiots committed suicide...
Old 10-04-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by codename Bil Doe
Champ and IRL did it to themselves.
they need to quite blaming the other racing santions for thier own failure.
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I guarantee that Bourdais will not be payed more than $300,000 to $500,000 in F1.

He'll be driving for a backmarker team and essentially be a rookie.

Not surprised that Champ Car is CRAP. I mean Scott Speed isn't even giving it a chance and he has never been in a stock car in his life.

Nascar certainly has the moneeeeey.
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
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Sebastien Bourdais will get paid what in F-1?

He stated some drivers in Champ car are not even getting paid on Wind Tunnel the other night.
It is my understanding that most Champ car drivers pay the teams for the opportunity to drive. No money/sponser, no seat time.
Old 10-04-2007, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Ragtop
It is my understanding that most Champ car drivers pay the teams for the opportunity to drive. No money/sponser, no seat time.
He's lucky that he's getting paid.

Both the IRL and Champ Car have basically turned into a ride buyer series. That's not good because it makes it dangerous for the other drivers to be out there with other drivers (Milka Duno for example) that aren't up to skill level that they need to be. It's even more dangerous in the IRL where they are inches away from each other on ovals at over 200 mph.
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Originally Posted by 03Ragtop
It is my understanding that most Champ car drivers pay the teams for the opportunity to drive. No money/sponser, no seat time.
This is also true of F1. The drivers bring the sponsors and are paid a percentage of the sponsorship. Schumacher was paid about 10% of the money from Marlboro or $60Millions...
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Originally Posted by John Shiels



He stated some drivers in Champ car are not even getting paid on Wind Tunnel the other night.

but what he didn`t say was how many don`t need to get paid and how many pay for their seats (most of them)...or should I say how many of their daddy`s pay for their seats.....
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just my guess http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/28732/
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Originally Posted by micro

Many drivers soon find out that the bunch of Circle dirt track ex-hooch running team owners and their protégées sons of a driver, drivers, know a thing or two about going fast.


It is not as easy as it looks.
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Originally Posted by Zee916
I guarantee that Bourdais will not be payed more than $300,000 to $500,000 in F1.

He'll be driving for a backmarker team and essentially be a rookie.

Not surprised that Champ Car is CRAP. I mean Scott Speed isn't even giving it a chance and he has never been in a stock car in his life.

Nascar certainly has the moneeeeey.
that is why he is there and not looking at Champ

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