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Old 10-09-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Stupid brake bleed question... do you remove MC cap before pushing pistons in?

I can't remember the proper procedure... but I do know that if I use my c-clamp w/ the MC cap off I make a huge mess as it squirts out the top.

So I leave hte MC cap on when pushing the pison back, but leave it off when bleeding.

What's the correct way?

I'm just going to get a motive power bleeder and be done with it... can't beat pressuring the system and just cracking a bleed screw.
Old 10-09-2007, 03:19 PM
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Take it off and suck out some juice before you push in the pistons. Then you won't make a mess!!!

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Get the Motive and never put any fluid in it.
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Get the Motive and never put any fluid in it.
That what I was going to do.... just use it to make pressure.
Old 10-09-2007, 03:43 PM
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Only put enough fluid in the MC so it is 1/2 way between the tank seam, and Full. Don't fill to the full line. Brake fluid heats up and expands.
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^ Yes... that is how I run it.
Old 10-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy@DRM
Take it off and suck out some juice before you push in the pistons. Then you won't make a mess!!!

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...this makes the most sense as to not have an overflow mess, but my MC is not filled to the top so I've never had it overflow when pushing the pistons back into the calipers myself.
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^ It's not overflowing... it squirts fluid out the top.
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Our old shop truck had a piston about the size of a basketball Talk about a pain.

If it is squirting, go slower, it may take a couple minutes a caliper. IF you push them in fast it will cause the squirt gun affect.

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^ Thanks.... guess I'm just going too fast
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
^ It's not overflowing... it squirts fluid out the top.
You could also leave the top on as it does have a vent hole (actually a slit) in it.
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^ cool.... I've been leaving the top on... was curious if that was ok, hence this post.
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Well ... perhaps I'm a candidate for the dumba$$ award ... but here's what I do:
Bleeding: crack the MC cap a quarter turn but leave it on. Top MC off with fresh fluid and keep an eye on the level as I bleed each wheel. Add fluid as needed to keep it above half.

Replacing pads: rather than pumping old fluid back into the lines, I mount a bleeder hose and crack the bleeder screws - old fluid goes out instead of back into the lines. Get the calipers bolted back on, then finish with a light bleed to ensure no air. Close bleeder and move on (making sure MC stays topped off).
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Two words: Vacuum pump.

Leave cap on, apply SMALL amount of vaccum, solves bleeding and piston problems.
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Originally Posted by MungoZ06
Replacing pads: rather than pumping old fluid back into the lines, I mount a bleeder hose and crack the bleeder screws - old fluid goes out instead of back into the lines. Get the calipers bolted back on, then finish with a light bleed to ensure no air. Close bleeder and move on (making sure MC stays topped off).
That is a tip I learned from racers couple of years ago, makes sense to get rid of the fluid in the calipers since it has been subjected to all of the heat. Then use the Motive bleeder (dry).

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I leave the cap sitting loose. That way any air between the bottom of the cap and the fluid in the MC easily escapes while the fluid that squirts from compressing the pistons just hits the bottom of the cap and remains in the MC.
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Originally Posted by MungoZ06
Well ... perhaps I'm a candidate for the dumba$$ award ... but here's what I do:
Bleeding: crack the MC cap a quarter turn but leave it on. Top MC off with fresh fluid and keep an eye on the level as I bleed each wheel. Add fluid as needed to keep it above half.

Replacing pads: rather than pumping old fluid back into the lines, I mount a bleeder hose and crack the bleeder screws - old fluid goes out instead of back into the lines. Get the calipers bolted back on, then finish with a light bleed to ensure no air. Close bleeder and move on (making sure MC stays topped off).
Very good plan if you are replacing fluid anyways. You are not a candidate for the dumba$$ award.

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Originally Posted by MungoZ06
Well ... perhaps I'm a candidate for the dumba$$ award ... but here's what I do:
Bleeding: crack the MC cap a quarter turn but leave it on. Top MC off with fresh fluid and keep an eye on the level as I bleed each wheel. Add fluid as needed to keep it above half.

Replacing pads: rather than pumping old fluid back into the lines, I mount a bleeder hose and crack the bleeder screws - old fluid goes out instead of back into the lines. Get the calipers bolted back on, then finish with a light bleed to ensure no air. Close bleeder and move on (making sure MC stays topped off).
I like this.....

I also keep the cap on but loose.

And I bleed 10 pumps rear and 15 front before every track day and when changing pads. My fluid is always bright and blue....


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Vaccum pumps suck... I have on and I can't get it to seal for ****... I'm going w/ the pressure bleeder.
Old 10-10-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MungoZ06
Well ... perhaps I'm a candidate for the dumba$$ award ... but here's what I do:
Bleeding: crack the MC cap a quarter turn but leave it on. Top MC off with fresh fluid and keep an eye on the level as I bleed each wheel. Add fluid as needed to keep it above half.

Replacing pads: rather than pumping old fluid back into the lines, I mount a bleeder hose and crack the bleeder screws - old fluid goes out instead of back into the lines. Get the calipers bolted back on, then finish with a light bleed to ensure no air. Close bleeder and move on (making sure MC stays topped off).

That is exactly what I do. The fluid in the caliper is what gets cooked the most anyway, so it is best to dump it.


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