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Old 12-27-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Cool road course vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5uniReXED4
Old 12-27-2007, 05:53 PM
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Wow - very fast. That driver is Nuckin' Futz!
Old 12-27-2007, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclerage23
Nurburgring, he lapped it in aprox 8.15
Jan Magnuson and Z06 did it in 7.42

now who is our daddy


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Old 12-27-2007, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclerage23
seems to be sawing at the wheel a lot
Old 12-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
seems to be sawing at the wheel a lot
Yeah, I think he drifted through more corners than not ... thought for sure he was going to take out a biker or two!
Old 12-27-2007, 07:05 PM
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Obviously never heard "smoother is faster". But he did seem to go around there pretty freakin quick. Unless the chassis was that bad and he's that good at recovering from it.
Old 12-27-2007, 07:05 PM
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That Ruff P car is either evil handling or the driver needs to take a course in smoothness. He is sawing back and forth on the wheel constantly.
Old 12-27-2007, 07:38 PM
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you didnt see the log chopper he had hooked up to the steering wheel off to the side? He could have cut down a dozen trees by the end of that vid.

I do have to say though that I would have to stop a couple times to change my shorts if I were riding with him.
Old 12-27-2007, 09:33 PM
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Smooth in the cockpit is not always fastest - this video is 20 years old.

It's Stefan Roser in a Group C Turbo Ruf (1987). About 470 bhp, rear wheel drive.
Stefan is ringing this cars neck.
Old 12-27-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bink
Smooth in the cockpit is not always fastest - this video is 20 years old.

It's Stefan Roser in a Group C Turbo Ruf (1987). About 470 bhp, rear wheel drive.
Stefan is ringing this cars neck.
M.Shumacher (sp?) sawed at the wheel of his F1 car constantly. I saw a Discovery special, or some kind like that, that showed how he went through turns/corners faster than anyone else... by sawing the wheel, just on the edge of grip/slip.

I read somewhere that maximum traction is attained with a 10% tire slip angle. That basically means a slightly slipping tire grips better than a stable tire.
Old 12-27-2007, 10:22 PM
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It looked to me like he was inducing oversteer (push) - much of the time. Slows him up and he get on the throttle earlier...without worrying about it swapping ends.
Just a thought.
Old 12-27-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000BSME
I read somewhere that maximum traction is attained with a 10% tire slip angle. That basically means a slightly slipping tire grips better than a stable tire.

??? Can you give us a link to that?
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I guess you don't need a helmet there? I would not want to be a biker around him.He makes me feel good I'm not so choppy or is that they way a Porsche handles?
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Looked like a scene from "Tokyo Drift"

Old 12-28-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
I guess you don't need a helmet there? I would not want to be a biker around him.He makes me feel good I'm not so choppy or is that they way a Porsche handles?
Personally, I myself wouldn't mind to have Stefan Roser's driving talent behind the wheel. He isn't a ******.

Also, here is a link of Nurburgring times(it is not completely up to date, perhaps 1 year old) http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...ostid=38044376
An 8:15 20 years ago with no helmet and tires of that era is not too shabby.

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Old 12-28-2007, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidney004
Personally, I myself wouldn't mind to have Stefan Roser's driving talent behind the wheel. He isn't a ******.

Also, here is a link of Nurburgring times(it is not completely up to date, perhaps 1 year old) http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...ostid=38044376
An 8:15 20 years ago with no helmet and tires of that era is not too shabby.
That driver has some insane skill. Not a clean lap, but pushing that hard with traffic and no helmet on.

The car sounds like its on street tires, too. Interesting that they have a C6 credited with the same 8:15 on that list.
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Originally Posted by Falcon
??? Can you give us a link to that?
Actually yes, it is from my book SPEED SECRETS, professional race driving techniques by Ross Bentley.

A friend of mine gave me the book. I'll see if I can find the page number tomorrow.

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Old 12-28-2007, 01:16 AM
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Loving all the critics here, that guy has way more skill than anyone posting in this thread. It's an evil older model porsche on yestertech suspension and tires on a bumpy "green hell", go try it and make it look smoother then you can judge.

On top of that he drifted through several turns, had to slow for bikers and hazzards and still ran an 8:15!!!!!!!!!



Surely you guys can see better than that.
Old 12-28-2007, 01:27 AM
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His nickname is Sideways Stefan Roser. It is my understanding that he was test driver for Ruf. The oversteer was deliberate for the video.

There are actually two videos, thsi one and another taken in copter following him aorund the "Ring".
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wow the critics here are hilarious, a lot of the basic rules of grip racing is instiled a little to well in some of you guys. Obviously he could drive smoothly if he wanted... This guy has great car control skills which you need if you are ever going to explore the true limits of a car. Being able to take that car to its limits and holding it the way he does in that video says a lot about his skill level. Bravo

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