C5Z - Which clutch??
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St. Jude Donor '08
C5Z - Which clutch??
I am hoping to start roadracing this year and need to replace my clutch. Car puts down 435/400 currently and looking for a good replacement. I've been told a Spec stage 2 is a good choice, but looking for something you guys use and is tested/proven. Thanks!
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works well for me no ho;e shots with 459 RWHP I want a 5.5" clutch
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The C6Z06 clutch and flywheel assy seems to be working well for several folks. I think that you would have to replace the slave cylinder also. It will hold 505 HP with no problem.
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you mean as one of those 'while you are in there' type things, or is there another reason why?
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Stock C5 or C6 Z06 clutches = JUNK. Drive your car hard enough and you will have the dreaded clutch pedal on the floor syndrom. The pressure plates are known to cause this problem, the self-adusting mechanism is to blame............The C6 or C6 Z06 clutch will be adding significant rotating mass to your driveline, which typically in a race or performance application is not a good idea...
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
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I guess I need to work on driving my cars "angry" since I currently run a pair of ZO6 clutches....with no problems to date.
Be careful on the "small" Spec clutches since they make the car nearly undrivable on the street.
My next clutch will probably be a Spec though...
Be careful on the "small" Spec clutches since they make the car nearly undrivable on the street.
My next clutch will probably be a Spec though...
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Mine aren't small , they are full size, just alot lighter...........they really do drive alot like stock, very manageable. Additionally a "freebie" mod in NASA TT.
I think I am about to venture out and do a 5.5 triple soon, less wieght and MOI. ( it ought to be REALLY ANGRY then ). Unfortuneatly it wont drive like stock anymore, but I'll enjoy it for what I use it for.
I think I am about to venture out and do a 5.5 triple soon, less wieght and MOI. ( it ought to be REALLY ANGRY then ). Unfortuneatly it wont drive like stock anymore, but I'll enjoy it for what I use it for.
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Stock C5 or C6 Z06 clutches = JUNK. Drive your car hard enough and you will have the dreaded clutch pedal on the floor syndrom. The pressure plates are known to cause this problem, the self-adusting mechanism is to blame............The C6 or C6 Z06 clutch will be adding significant rotating mass to your driveline, which typically in a race or performance application is not a good idea...
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
how much HP/TQ do your hot-rods have ?
so you run a blanket on your bellhousings?
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MY '02 Roadrace car has a 3, makes 540/475 rwhp/tq.......
No blankets, but maybe I should...haven't been concerned at this point with these clutches. I would be far more concerned with the stock LS clutches after some of the pressure plate disinegration I have seen. Scares the crap out of me. Cracks in the housing , pressure plate springs breaking , pressure plate bolts being loose etc......
One issue with the 2+'s is that sometimes the new clutch engagement hieght is too low when new causing hard shift. This is fixed by using a $300+ McLeod clutch master cylinder with a 1/16 larger bore diameter. This happens 50% of the time for some reason At least you dont have to remove the driveline again if this happens after the clutch install.
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I blew up a Spec 2+ with 439 rwhp/ 400 rwtq. It had 10k miles on it.
I recently moved to an LS7/ LS2 Clutch Flywheel combo after some recommndations and I couldn't be happier. Grabs very hard and is a lot easier to drive the the SPEC 2+.
Some people love SPEC and hate LS7 so it depends on who you talk too
I recently moved to an LS7/ LS2 Clutch Flywheel combo after some recommndations and I couldn't be happier. Grabs very hard and is a lot easier to drive the the SPEC 2+.
Some people love SPEC and hate LS7 so it depends on who you talk too
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I blew up a Spec 2+ with 439 rwhp/ 400 rwtq. It had 10k miles on it.
I recently moved to an LS7/ LS2 Clutch Flywheel combo after some recommndations and I couldn't be happier. Grabs very hard and is a lot easier to drive the the SPEC 2+.
Some people love SPEC and hate LS7 so it depends on who you talk too
I recently moved to an LS7/ LS2 Clutch Flywheel combo after some recommndations and I couldn't be happier. Grabs very hard and is a lot easier to drive the the SPEC 2+.
Some people love SPEC and hate LS7 so it depends on who you talk too
1)are you a road racer or a 1/4 mile dragster? did it fail when you dumped the clutch?
2)or did it slowly breakdown and finally quit?
3)did you have the light aluminum pressure plate?
this may sound silly but i just do not understand why anyone would drag race any car with an independent rear-end...solid axle is the way to go!
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I don't powershift I just shift as fast as possible with a small blip. If I was racing I would probably abuse it more. Never had it stick on the floor.
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Listen to Raftracer.
I had 2 other clutches in mine and none could take the assault I put on my driveline like the spec3.
I have 409/390 N/A and 572/609 on a 150 shot that I have used on road courses as well as the strip and the street (thanks to liberal One Lap rules) with 335 stickies on the back and never had an issue with the spec.
I had 2 other clutches in mine and none could take the assault I put on my driveline like the spec3.
I have 409/390 N/A and 572/609 on a 150 shot that I have used on road courses as well as the strip and the street (thanks to liberal One Lap rules) with 335 stickies on the back and never had an issue with the spec.
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Stock C5 or C6 Z06 clutches = JUNK. Drive your car hard enough and you will have the dreaded clutch pedal on the floor syndrom. The pressure plates are known to cause this problem, the self-adusting mechanism is to blame............The C6 or C6 Z06 clutch will be adding significant rotating mass to your driveline, which typically in a race or performance application is not a good idea...
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
I have been using SPEC 2+'s or 3's in both of my C5 Z06 hot-rods. They make a real nice unit with aluminum flywheel and majoritily aluminum pressure plate that is 22lbs lighter than a stock C5Z06 assy, that drives like stock and tolerates my abuse. Cost for that unit is approx $1100.00, but comes completely balanced as an assy so it is ready to be installed as soon as it arrives. Taking 22 lbs off of the rotating mass is ALOT. Engine will accelerate and deccelerate much quicker. Very noticeable difference.
Listen to Raftracer.
I had 2 other clutches in mine and none could take the assault I put on my driveline like the spec3.
I have 409/390 N/A and 572/609 on a 150 shot that I have used on road courses as well as the strip and the street (thanks to liberal One Lap rules) with 335 stickies on the back and never had an issue with the spec.
I had 2 other clutches in mine and none could take the assault I put on my driveline like the spec3.
I have 409/390 N/A and 572/609 on a 150 shot that I have used on road courses as well as the strip and the street (thanks to liberal One Lap rules) with 335 stickies on the back and never had an issue with the spec.
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That's my problem now, the pedal sticks to the floor when I drive it like I own it and it pisses me off...
Thanks but no thanks on the lux. Is it the lightweight aluminum flywheel??
Spec 2/3 sounds like the way to go for the money I'm just concerned about the aluminum flywheel. All I "read" about is terrible drive-ability with the motor accelerating/decelerating too fast and causing surging, etc. Any feedback from anyone that has one?
Thanks but no thanks on the lux. Is it the lightweight aluminum flywheel??
Spec 2/3 sounds like the way to go for the money I'm just concerned about the aluminum flywheel. All I "read" about is terrible drive-ability with the motor accelerating/decelerating too fast and causing surging, etc. Any feedback from anyone that has one?