Aardwolf

I put on these Hawk HT-10 pads expecting them to be cold and not stop well but got a big surprise. Barely touching the pedal will lock up the front! They have amazing cold bite. They would be bad for a rain event so I'm taking along some stock type pads too. If I'm careful they do modulate well but a quick stab to the pedal is a

They squeal and dust like crazy! They definitely are a good pad for driving to the track though.

Found a cool chart of temps and torque for Hawk pads:
http://www.andrew-racing.com/compoun...on%20chart.pdf

Kubs

Sounds like a good track pad. Blue and black pads are not recommended for street use and the HT-10 is more aggressive. I would not use them on the street but thats just my opinion.

Aardwolf

Yeah the squealing really is extreme. I'll be changing them out when I get home from this weekends event. I had to laugh at the dust, I went to get an alignment and the front wheels turned black. They are definitely safe to drive with though, no cold laggy stops.

I've got some DTC-60's and my tires are scared to try them! :lol

Kubs

I change to race tires at the track, even when trailered sometimes, so I also swap out the pads at that time since its easy enough. I use Advance Auto "Silver" pads for the street cause they are only about $20 an axle, and I dont want to use the track pads when I dont have to. I am going to try the HT-10 on the front and Black on the rear for the track this year.

flink

1200F isn't really high enough.

I consumed a set of HT-10's on my second-ever HPDE (stock GTO brakes,
basically the same as C5's).

I consumed a second set on my third HPDE.

Got two days out of a set of DTC-60's with a single duct.

State of the art at present is 2.95 days out of a set of DTC-70's with dual 3"
ducting and 13" stoptech's with st-40 calipers.

My next victim is a set of PFC97's - am hoping to get at least 3.01 days from
those.

If you have ducting and aren't insanely hard on the brakes then the ht-10's
are pretty good bang-for-the-buck - they're significantly cheaper than the
DTC pads. But they disappear fast once the rotors get up to around 1500F.

Bill Dearborn

You might want to consider LGs G Stop brake kit for the front. I have it and use the Wilwood 7420H pad on the track. I get 8 days out of a set of pads and they cost less than the OEM style race pads from Hawk and PFC. I get about the same amount of rotor life which is about 3 track days per rotor. Doing 10 or 12 track days per year I have used the G stop kit for 4 seasons now and I have saved more in brake pad costs than I paid for the kit.

Bill

Kubs

I find this hard to believe. I was forced to use my "silvers" this past saturday and I only used half a set with two drivers at an all day HPDE. I have a stock weight C4 with OEM brakes and DRM bias spring.

EvilBoffin

Bill -

What rotors are you using with the G-Stop kit - and how much $$ / rotor?

Wilwoods? OEM's? NAPA's?


TIA

rustyguns

your not going fast enough !

0Todd TCE

Safe perhaps but I'll wager half that dust is your rotor and not just the pad. Running such high Cf pads at cold temps tends to eat rotors for breakfast.

argonaut

Wow - driving style/speed produces some radically different experiences with regards to pad life. Last year in my 07 Mustang I did 13 HPDEs, about half in Novice group and the other in Intermidiate. One set of HT-10s on the front (2 sets of rotors). That's a 3500lb car and the fronts are a bit smaller than the C5, note it does have brake ducts. Granted I'm not the fastest guy out there but I'm not that slow either. Just easy on brakes I guess.

I agree with the OP, they work fine when cold, squeal and dust something fierce. I frequently used them to drive to events.

L98Terror

I'm kind of slow but....

I'm running 14" rotors with Alcon TA4 upfront and H-tyope in rears and got a whole season out of the set of pads that came on the car, switched to DTC 70 front 60s rear and have done 1 hpde, 5 races, 4 qualifing and 3 practices and my pads don't even show wear. Maybe race brakes are worth the price

Kubs

I know I was using them enough to heat them up good.
The pedal was mushy at times, and the wheels turned black after 1 session so I know I was using them, they just didnt wear that much. They also didnt have a good bite.

vms4evr

I commute to the track on my race pads. I've done it on Carbotech XP8/10/12 and Hawk DTC70. After a few stops they are ok for commuting to the track. I once ran XP8 all summer because I was too lazy to swap back to stock pads.

I wouldn't do it with the DTC70. Like Todd_TCE said, I'll bet half the dust is the rotor being eaten... Those pads got pulled right after I got home. If you are running street tires they probably should be afraid of the DTC pads. I ran a few sessions on old GY F1s and the pads overload them real quick. You have to be real sensitive with the brake pedal pressure or you'll be all over ABS. Now on slicks, much more fun ;-)