Technical question on Toe and Vette Suspension Geometry
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Technical question on Toe and Vette Suspension Geometry
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I got my car aligned a few weeks back no big deal.
I had them dial in 1/8 th total Toe Out up front. While they did that I asked if they could do an experiment...
Since on entry to a corner, typically you are on the throttle to set the rear of the car, the front will naturally get lighter and lift under the accelleration...
So I wanted to see what happened on the front end of the Vette when the front end's suspension lifted up a bit. Did this with the alignment gear on the car.
What I found was at full lift (lifting the car maybe 2 inches) the front Toe Out of about 1/8th becomes Toe In of about 1/8th (maybe a bit less but close enough) This seems to defeat the Toe Out setting a bit for corner entry, but still if it changes this much with a neutral Toe Out, it must be quite a bit more Toe In for the normal alignment?
My question is: Is there something that can be done here to improve the transitional alignment and suspension settings for the Vette? Has anyone done this? I assume the race teams build their own suspension arms and steering knuckles to control this better? Any comments?
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Mike
I got my car aligned a few weeks back no big deal.
I had them dial in 1/8 th total Toe Out up front. While they did that I asked if they could do an experiment...
Since on entry to a corner, typically you are on the throttle to set the rear of the car, the front will naturally get lighter and lift under the accelleration...
So I wanted to see what happened on the front end of the Vette when the front end's suspension lifted up a bit. Did this with the alignment gear on the car.
What I found was at full lift (lifting the car maybe 2 inches) the front Toe Out of about 1/8th becomes Toe In of about 1/8th (maybe a bit less but close enough) This seems to defeat the Toe Out setting a bit for corner entry, but still if it changes this much with a neutral Toe Out, it must be quite a bit more Toe In for the normal alignment?
My question is: Is there something that can be done here to improve the transitional alignment and suspension settings for the Vette? Has anyone done this? I assume the race teams build their own suspension arms and steering knuckles to control this better? Any comments?
Thanks
Mike
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So I wanted to see what happened on the front end of the Vette when the front end's suspension lifted up a bit. Did this with the alignment gear on the car.
What I found was at full lift (lifting the car maybe 2 inches) the front Toe Out of about 1/8th becomes Toe In of about 1/8th (maybe a bit less but close enough)
What I found was at full lift (lifting the car maybe 2 inches) the front Toe Out of about 1/8th becomes Toe In of about 1/8th (maybe a bit less but close enough)
This seems to defeat the Toe Out setting a bit for corner entry, but still if it changes this much with a neutral Toe Out, it must be quite a bit more Toe In for the normal alignment?
My question is: Is there something that can be done here to improve the transitional alignment and suspension settings for the Vette? Has anyone done this? I assume the race teams build their own suspension arms and steering knuckles to control this better? Any comments?
zip and LG sell bump steer kits, which change the steering geometry. it's pretty cheap, but if your car is not lowered then my guess is you don't need/want it. (with a lowered car you change the steering geometry and hence may want to adjust bump steer by making a corresponding adjustment in the height of the tie rod end or steering rack height.)