Using Dewitt radiator with EOC & TOC for C5 Z06 ?
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Using Dewitt radiator with EOC & TOC for C5 Z06 ?
I was wondering if anyone has tried to use Dewitt for handling transmission cooling as well on top of normal coolant / oil ?
What connectors, hoses, pumps, filters did You use ?
/Hakan
What connectors, hoses, pumps, filters did You use ?
/Hakan
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I have the dewitts with right side oil cooler and it works great. -10 fittings. 90* both on the radiator. They offer the radiator with left side cooler as well, but that side is the hot side and harder to get to the fittings without moving the radiator. I don't have an automatic so I don't know about the transmission cooler.
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I have the dewitts with right side oil cooler and it works great. -10 fittings. 90* both on the radiator. They offer the radiator with left side cooler as well, but that side is the hot side and harder to get to the fittings without moving the radiator. I don't have an automatic so I don't know about the transmission cooler.
Thx Trackboss !
I talked to Dewitt today and they have a cooler for the C5 which have the "normal" water coolant + EOC and TOC for automatics, trying to save space and see if anyone ever tried to use the TOC part for cooling the manual transmission (instead of installing yet another radiator for trans only).
Also heard that the Dewitt hose assembly is great, but a bit of a problem to install (might need to lift the engine a bit) Anyone having feedback or tips is highly appreciated.
/Hakan
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You do not want to use a transmission cooler for engine oil. Get the same radiator I have. Dont' even bother with a left side cooler. Use -10 plumbing. 90* fittings on the cooler and also on the block adapter. Life will be much easier if you use non-steel braided hose. I used earl's pro-lite 350. Cuts really easy and clean with a pvc pipe ratchet cutter and assembles just as easy with no bloody fingers. I also wrapped mine with heat sleave and recently on top of that I put some teflon spiral wrap to resist wear. S.S. is much more durable, but it saws through everything and is much heavier not to mention harder to assemble fittings.
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I have to disagree with that. I HIGHLY recomment the left side EOC with a modified C6 GM hose assembly. The key to this package is that it has a built-in 7 psi bypass valve which allows you to use much smaller lines. Not metioned (but I did) the kit cost about 1/3 what the fancy stainless steel does
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Planning to use dewitt's linr hookup for the engine oul cooler hookup with the pressure sensor. Just wanted to see if anyine have tried to use Dewitt cooler which has 3 separate elements and use the portion intended for automatic transmission for a manual gearbox instead.
Will definitely look at isolating the cables.
Thx Hakan
Will definitely look at isolating the cables.
Thx Hakan
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I have to disagree with that. I HIGHLY recomment the left side EOC with a modified C6 GM hose assembly. The key to this package is that it has a built-in 7 psi bypass valve which allows you to use much smaller lines. Not metioned (but I did) the kit cost about 1/3 what the fancy stainless steel does
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The C6 hose assembly does not have a port for the C5 temp sender, so we add one. We also include two special quick connect fittings for the radiator. Some people say the factory assembly is hard to install and others say it was a snap. I guess it's just different levels of mechanical skill.
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I personally think the cold side is better for cooling and -10 AN lines will flow better than the bent factory hard lines. The factory lines will probably package a little tighter giving a factory appearance. I"ve done a whole lot of cooling systems on several race cars as well as street cars and never have I used a built in oil cooler that was on the hot side of the radiator. This includes Ron Davis, Griffin, C&R, and recently my own dewitts radiator.
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I personally think the cold side is better for cooling and -10 AN lines will flow better than the bent factory hard lines. The factory lines will probably package a little tighter giving a factory appearance. I"ve done a whole lot of cooling systems on several race cars as well as street cars and never have I used a built in oil cooler that was on the hot side of the radiator. This includes Ron Davis, Griffin, C&R, and recently my own dewitts radiator.
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Hi Tom,
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
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Hi Tom,
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
A01AE vs A97EL no difference, except the later doesn't have a tranny cooler. You could add a pump and run the manual fluid through but I don't think you'd gain anything from it. It's not like auto tranny fluid which is really a hydraulic system and gets very hot.
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Pretty much the same idea as Hakan.
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Bringing up an older post...
So has anyone used one of these radiators to cool both the engine oil and the manual transmission fluid? I'm needing to drop my driveline for a clutch job and figure it'd be a great time to take advantage of some "while we're in there" and tackle the cooling mods.
I'm torn between going DRM tranny/diff, the LG tranny/diff, or using a TOC for the manual fluid in a radiator(with EOC which I plan on doing anyway).
Any results?
Thanks,
TomK
So has anyone used one of these radiators to cool both the engine oil and the manual transmission fluid? I'm needing to drop my driveline for a clutch job and figure it'd be a great time to take advantage of some "while we're in there" and tackle the cooling mods.
I'm torn between going DRM tranny/diff, the LG tranny/diff, or using a TOC for the manual fluid in a radiator(with EOC which I plan on doing anyway).
Any results?
Thanks,
TomK
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DeWitts "898" Factory C6 Oil cooler hoose install
I have just successfully installed the A97EL radiator.
No major issues during installation, that is, a perfect fit!
Now my problem, I can't figure out how to get the hoose assembly (898 the C6 factory type) in there?
Anyone who have done it and how did you do?
Can it be so that it should have gone in before I installed the radiator, it's very tight arount the engine mounts?
Please advice
All the best
Ralph
No major issues during installation, that is, a perfect fit!
Now my problem, I can't figure out how to get the hoose assembly (898 the C6 factory type) in there?
Anyone who have done it and how did you do?
Can it be so that it should have gone in before I installed the radiator, it's very tight arount the engine mounts?
Please advice
All the best
Ralph
Last edited by GS1000FF; 12-31-2009 at 08:23 AM.
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We have always mounted the tranny and diff coolers in the back end of the car. The C6 sence it already has lines going to the front of the car it makes more sence. But on a C5 running lines up to the front is kinda crazy. On racecars that we build here we run power steering to the other cooler in the radiator, but with your C5Z has a pretty good PS cooler already.
I can help with lines, fitting and pump.
Randy
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Hi Tom,
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
Is there any difference on the cooling capacity between the A01AE and A97EL in regards to water / engine oil capacity (volume / BTU) and secondly do you see any problems with using the A01AE radiator and connect it's TOC to my manual gearbox and use a pump (like the one GM uses in their trans cooling kit) ?
/Hakan
If you want to cool your manual transmission and your differential, here is what I would suggest:
No long lines!
No noisy electric motors!
No having to remember to turn your pumps on!
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The best way to do this is to remove the motor mount bolts on the driverside and raise the motor up slightly enough to get the hose assembly in there.
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I have just successfully installed the A97EL radiator.
No major issues during installation, that is, a perfect fit!
Now my problem, I can't figure out how to get the hoose assembly (898 the C6 factory type) in there?
Anyone who have done it and how did you do?
Can it be so that it should have gone in before I installed the radiator, it's very tight arount the engine mounts?
Please advice
All the best
Ralph
No major issues during installation, that is, a perfect fit!
Now my problem, I can't figure out how to get the hoose assembly (898 the C6 factory type) in there?
Anyone who have done it and how did you do?
Can it be so that it should have gone in before I installed the radiator, it's very tight arount the engine mounts?
Please advice
All the best
Ralph
/Hakan