Racing Seats - Advice Wanted
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Burning Brakes
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Racing Seats - Advice Wanted
I have mod fever again and am starting to think about acting on some advice from the people who installed my welded-in roll bar, from those who installed my engine, and from those racers/HPDE-ers who have already gone this route: changing out my stock sport buckets for some racing seats.
As a recreational HPDE type of guy, I'm not looking for a seat that's the end all and be all of applicability for track use. (Cost is also a factor.) It would be great if the seat is both comfortable for daily use or road trips and purposeful enough for track use. As for the passenger side of things, I fortunately or unfortunately (depending on viewpoint) hardly ever have someone sitting there. So, if I can get away with just getting a driver's seat for track days, all the better.
Construction-wise, I'd want plenty of side/bolster support and a designed sub-belt pass through slot. I'm not sure if these stats would have any bearing, but I'm around 6'1" and weigh about 215-220lbs.
So...any recommendations for a brand and model of seat to consider?
Thanks in advance for the advice!
As a recreational HPDE type of guy, I'm not looking for a seat that's the end all and be all of applicability for track use. (Cost is also a factor.) It would be great if the seat is both comfortable for daily use or road trips and purposeful enough for track use. As for the passenger side of things, I fortunately or unfortunately (depending on viewpoint) hardly ever have someone sitting there. So, if I can get away with just getting a driver's seat for track days, all the better.
Construction-wise, I'd want plenty of side/bolster support and a designed sub-belt pass through slot. I'm not sure if these stats would have any bearing, but I'm around 6'1" and weigh about 215-220lbs.
So...any recommendations for a brand and model of seat to consider?
Thanks in advance for the advice!
#2
Melting Slicks
I really like the Cobra Suzuka...and I think it was about $550 or so. Very supportive...very comfortable. I'm 6' 3", 195 ...so you may have to get the GT (wider) version. It's definitely worth it though if you plan on doing more track events!!!
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I use the Corbeau FX1 Pros. They have great lateral support and when Im harnessed in, my body doesnt move at all. The plus side is that the seat sides arent super high so when I sit in the seat and use my stock 3 pt belt, the belt sits ON my hips and legs so it is still snug and holds me in.
If you use a seat with higher seat sides and want to use your 3pt belt the belt actually rests on the top of the supports and dont touch your legs. Not very safe as the belts are not snug on you.
Im 6'1, 200lbs 34" waist and they fit great... above that and it could get snug..
If you use a seat with higher seat sides and want to use your 3pt belt the belt actually rests on the top of the supports and dont touch your legs. Not very safe as the belts are not snug on you.
Im 6'1, 200lbs 34" waist and they fit great... above that and it could get snug..
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Racing seats are difficult to get in and out of. I've got corbeau's, but I think if they're made to hold you in when you're pulling over 1g latterally they aren't going to be comfortably padded. But when you're on the track you'll be glad you have them. If you are doing HPDE's you might want the same safety level for you as your instructor.
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My advise is to find a store where you can try them out - or sit in other cars at the track.
I recently installed Cobra Imola S GT, similar to Suzuka but in a side to side comparison I found that Imola had a little large angle between seat and back rest and a much lower leg support- both Kevlar.
- The lower leg support is a trade off for optimal track seating vs getting in/out of the car.
- The non-GT (Suzuka and Imola) was to tight for my hips and I'm not wide - 33" waist
- Being a little more open makes it OKish for street.
- Great improvement over the stock seat for lateral control and feeling the car. (With stock seats my LG Coilovers felt mushy, now its a go-kart)
I decided I wanted a slider for the drivers side and installed Pfadt's seat brackets w slider. Adds about 3/4" in height and my helmet is very close to the roof - I'm 5'11 with short legs. Thought I would be OK, but I sit higher than in the stock seat.
- So I'm going to take out the 40mm seat pad (velcro) and try with a 20mm one.
- Plan B is to loose the slider.
- Plan C is to try another mount for more tilt, but I don't think this is necessary. I'm using the highest mounting hole up front and the lowest in the rear - and have to washers underneath the front mount.
Loosing the slider should allow me to add another front hole.
Note1: I gained tilt and seat height be making sure the carpet wasn't stuck underneath anywhere.
Note2: Stock belt receiver isn't really movable from the stock seat - I looked at doing it and it would be hard to find room for the re-tractor. Ended up getting a new one that I snap in to the harness eyelets. Imola's side are low enough to grab your hips, but I threaded the stock belt through the hole on one side.
Will post photos as I find my camera cable
Another alternative for street/hpde is Corbeau A4s.
/Nik
I recently installed Cobra Imola S GT, similar to Suzuka but in a side to side comparison I found that Imola had a little large angle between seat and back rest and a much lower leg support- both Kevlar.
- The lower leg support is a trade off for optimal track seating vs getting in/out of the car.
- The non-GT (Suzuka and Imola) was to tight for my hips and I'm not wide - 33" waist
- Being a little more open makes it OKish for street.
- Great improvement over the stock seat for lateral control and feeling the car. (With stock seats my LG Coilovers felt mushy, now its a go-kart)
I decided I wanted a slider for the drivers side and installed Pfadt's seat brackets w slider. Adds about 3/4" in height and my helmet is very close to the roof - I'm 5'11 with short legs. Thought I would be OK, but I sit higher than in the stock seat.
- So I'm going to take out the 40mm seat pad (velcro) and try with a 20mm one.
- Plan B is to loose the slider.
- Plan C is to try another mount for more tilt, but I don't think this is necessary. I'm using the highest mounting hole up front and the lowest in the rear - and have to washers underneath the front mount.
Loosing the slider should allow me to add another front hole.
Note1: I gained tilt and seat height be making sure the carpet wasn't stuck underneath anywhere.
Note2: Stock belt receiver isn't really movable from the stock seat - I looked at doing it and it would be hard to find room for the re-tractor. Ended up getting a new one that I snap in to the harness eyelets. Imola's side are low enough to grab your hips, but I threaded the stock belt through the hole on one side.
Will post photos as I find my camera cable
Another alternative for street/hpde is Corbeau A4s.
/Nik
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Melting Slicks
I got the Cobra Suzuka because it fit me better. I'm 6'2" 215# and fits good. Other seats seemed too short - the holes for the shoulder belts were too low.
Friends told me to get a race seat as soon as possible. I was running 6-point harnesses and regular seat. I was still bracing myselft with my knees against the console and the door (speaker). When wearing shorts I swear I rubbed the hair off my leg on that speaker grill).
Got the race seat and haven't had to brace myself since.
#8
Burning Brakes
I have the Suzuka GT 6' 265. Snug but comfortable and my wife and I drove from Allentown to Carlisle (2hrs) and back plus just tooling around while we were there. She wasn't pleased with the harness (oh well) but no complaints about the seat.
I just transitioned from stock seats and as everyone told me (and you've probably heard the same) it's a huge difference in car control not to mention not requring as much effort just to stay in the seat.
I think the full set was ~ 850 installed by Phoenix Perf.
#9
seats are like shoes in that you have to try them on for size before you by. What fits great for one person of the same size might be uncomfortable for another.
I only sat in about 10 different seats before I made my choice of caravaggio, they are a little more then most seats but they fit me like a glove and have all the features I was looking for.
I only sat in about 10 different seats before I made my choice of caravaggio, they are a little more then most seats but they fit me like a glove and have all the features I was looking for.
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Drifting
how about the Evo 2's ?...anyone fitted them in a c5Z ? Did they go in without too much trouble and..how they working for you ?
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I have owned and street driven/tracked a few and my favorite, at least for my personal physic are Racetech, I have driven 300+ miles without stopping and never even thought about comfort, I own three now
Rick
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I also have a Brey-Krause harness bar and had to trim the end of the drivers side support bar to get it over the seat stud in the floor because of the extra thickness of the mount and slider.
Good luck.
Bob
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2 secs/lap when you don't have to drive it from the passenger seat, then the trunk area, then from inside the "bose" speaker grill, etc
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I've gotta recommend the Ultrashield Pros:
http://www.ultrashieldrace.com/prod.php?id=7
I have an older version of the above with Hardbar rails and belt anchors, and I'm VERY happy with their performance in HPDEs. Excellent lateral support. Very comfortable for 2-3 hour drives. The price is also nice
They are not easy to get in and out of for DD; but, for the week around a track event, or even for the summer, they're fine.
I've added some padding to fine tune the seating position:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gro...roupID=BACKPAD
http://www.ultrashieldrace.com/prod.php?id=7
I have an older version of the above with Hardbar rails and belt anchors, and I'm VERY happy with their performance in HPDEs. Excellent lateral support. Very comfortable for 2-3 hour drives. The price is also nice
They are not easy to get in and out of for DD; but, for the week around a track event, or even for the summer, they're fine.
I've added some padding to fine tune the seating position:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gro...roupID=BACKPAD
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Drifting
I've gotta recommend the Ultrashield Pros:
http://www.ultrashieldrace.com/prod.php?id=7
I have an older version of the above with Hardbar rails and belt anchors, and I'm VERY happy with their performance in HPDEs. Excellent lateral support. Very comfortable for 2-3 hour drives. The price is also nice
They are not easy to get in and out of for DD; but, for the week around a track event, or even for the summer, they're fine.
I've added some padding to fine tune the seating position:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gro...roupID=BACKPAD
http://www.ultrashieldrace.com/prod.php?id=7
I have an older version of the above with Hardbar rails and belt anchors, and I'm VERY happy with their performance in HPDEs. Excellent lateral support. Very comfortable for 2-3 hour drives. The price is also nice
They are not easy to get in and out of for DD; but, for the week around a track event, or even for the summer, they're fine.
I've added some padding to fine tune the seating position:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gro...roupID=BACKPAD
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I have the Sparco EVO 2+. They fit me pretty well, 5'-11" @ 205lbs. The fit into the C5 was very tight. If I did it over again, I would use the standard Sparco Evo. I am not sure I really needed the wider seat, (plus I have lost weight) The Sparco is great at the track, but if possible sit in some seats first before purchasing. You will enjoy the track more with a race seat and 6 point harness.
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+1 for ultrashield.
Very very comfortable. But I would not drive too far for non track use.
With the ultrashield bolted to Hard bar rails bolted to the floor and t1 suspension, rocks would be softer.
But in the seat and on the track, you finally realize how much energy was used just to hold your body in place, when you no longer have to do so. Concentrate on driving
However, i am looking at changing to the Racetech or Sparco with the helmet halo
Very very comfortable. But I would not drive too far for non track use.
With the ultrashield bolted to Hard bar rails bolted to the floor and t1 suspension, rocks would be softer.
But in the seat and on the track, you finally realize how much energy was used just to hold your body in place, when you no longer have to do so. Concentrate on driving
However, i am looking at changing to the Racetech or Sparco with the helmet halo
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I have Cobra seats on both sides. I run the Suzuka on the drivers side and the Imola on the passenger side. I use Hardbar mounts. The Imola is easier in and out as the sides are lower but the lateral support of the Suzuka is fantastic.
I drive to all tracks and Watkins Glen is a 4 1/2 hour trip. I do that without stopping. When I get there all is good, just need a strech, mainly because you can't move much. Very comfortable. I have done a 9 hour drive from my house to Cincinnati, OH twice with no problems. I find the seat comfortable on long trips. The biggest thing is getting in and out but with a little practice you can look like you know what you are doing:o
I drive to all tracks and Watkins Glen is a 4 1/2 hour trip. I do that without stopping. When I get there all is good, just need a strech, mainly because you can't move much. Very comfortable. I have done a 9 hour drive from my house to Cincinnati, OH twice with no problems. I find the seat comfortable on long trips. The biggest thing is getting in and out but with a little practice you can look like you know what you are doing:o
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Burning Brakes
Yup! Amazing how much easier it his to H/T when you're not worried about using your legs to brace with! I had a more experienced instructor friend in my car last fall and he was trying to get me to change my hand position on the wheel, then he realized my hands were where they were to keep me from flying out the window.