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Old 09-21-2009, 05:31 PM
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Hey guys i was wondering if any of you take your corvette to the track and drift? I had a 90 camaro with a 305 and got decent then now i have a 86 corvette Z51 w/ 4 speed and its so much easier and everything is really smooth.

Do you guys think corvettes are good drift cars?

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Originally Posted by 19Beast90
Do you guys think corvettes are good drift cars?
Well, in a word, no...

For a drift car you want something that understeers like a pig so that you can break the back end loose with power and still have some stability margin. A Corvette has more weight on the back wheels and consequently it puts down more power rather than breaking the back end loose...

If you wanted to, you could try to put in huge bars in the front, and take off the rear bar and, if you didn't put big tires on it you could drift it some, but there are a lot better cars to start with (like a Camaro or Fox body Mustang or GTO) that don't have as much weight on the rear wheels, are cheaper to buy and, since they have a beam axle are cheaper to maintain than a Vette....
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firstly, drifting is stupid. Now that that is off my chest...

the dumbasses that I know who drift say the vette doesnt have enough steering angle. So unless you're going to dive into the knuckles/steering apparatus and fab up something custom... it wont work.
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I dont have the money for all of it i just thought that some of you would do it with the power and their not that heavy of a car.
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This is more like real drifting. Danny Popp Style!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...-possible.html
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Originally Posted by Solofast
For a drift car you want something that understeers like a pig so that you can break the back end loose with power and still have some stability margin.
Stock C4's due understeer like a pig
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Originally Posted by wallyman424
firstly, drifting is stupid. Now that that is off my chest...

the dumbasses that I know who drift say the vette doesnt have enough steering angle. So unless you're going to dive into the knuckles/steering apparatus and fab up something custom... it wont work.
While I'm not so sure about the first part (only because I've seen wally drifto first hand)

The second part is right, most people stay away from them because of their lack of steering angle.
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can it be done? yes

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Old 09-22-2009, 09:47 AM
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Where does one go drifting ?
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:50 AM
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I would have just used the Camaro. I have no experience with setting up a C4. Hopefully some brave soul would chime in instead of just saying how much they hated drifting.
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wah
I would have just used the Camaro. I have no experience with setting up a C4. Hopefully some brave soul would chime in instead of just saying how much they hated drifting.
I think the problem here is that not many of the people on this forum are interested in drifting or know how to set a car up for drifting. Everything we do is to try and keep the back end from sliding around too much Vs getting it to slide around. The people who slide cars around on road courses or autocross courses with their tires spinning always turn in slower times than people who do not slide them around.

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I'm actually going into drifting. Nothing serious or competitive, I just want that set of skills. I found that it is a very difficult for me to learn drifting. I have to throw out all the things I have learned over the years in autox and some very limited exposure from a brief HPDE event.

Most racers look down at/hate drifting due to its judged events, but the skills are still there to learn. Controlling/balancing a car at the verge of instability is not natural to me and it's been a very frustrating and exhausting learning process. This is even worse than going from racing an AWD to a very powerful RWD.

I don't think massive steering angle is required in drifting. It's nice so the car can slide at larger angle that will wow the judges, but it's not everything. Answering AU N EGL question, there are practice events set up in almost every state. These events are usually at grass root level. The ones in my state are organized and run by an import speed shop in Dayton at an oval track with infield. National events are like Formula D but I have no idea about those.
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As with most motorsports, if you properly set up the car for the sport it gets an awful lot easier. When I was a kid I had a BMW 2002 and my best friend had an MGA. We could take both cars out on the back dirt roads and the MG was a breeze to drift around in lurid slides, while the Bimmer was like balancing on knife edge. One slight wrong move and you were visiting the tulips... Same thing in ice racing, some cars can be hung out for miles while others you have to keep absolutely in line or you are gone.

The setup for drifting involves big push, and other than using it for drifting, the car is pretty much worthless for anything else. If you set your car up that way, yes you can learn to slide it around, but the car control skills aren't really going to transfer over to the track because track cars don't respond the same and you are more likely to end up doing a tank slapper if you try to recover a real car the way you do a drift car...
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I like drifting. I think you should go for it!

Good luck!

































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I like drifting. I think you should go for it!

Good luck!
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Adding more steering angle shouldn't be too difficult. Just fab up a new mount to shorten the steering arm. It will give you a quicker ratio and more angle. Bolt on some 225's and you should be sliding all over the place.
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Once again i dont really drift. Me and some buddys will go to a big empty parkin lot and have cones set up and i could drift so much better in my c4 then my camaro. I dont know if that Z51 stuff had anything to do with it? then it also has the low end to make quick and easy around a turn.

Just thought i would ask how many of you guys do it and how good are you with it?

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Old 09-23-2009, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 19Beast90
Just thought i would ask how many of you guys do it and how good are you with it?
I think you have seen that the answer is pretty much nobody, ESPECIALLY in this section of the forum.

Maybe try a drifting specific forum? I'm sure it exists somewhere.
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