Jan Magnussen broke his coccyx
10-27-2009, 04:41 PM
#1
Jan Magnussen broke his coccyx
From: www.janmagnussen.com
At the last race of the ALMS Championship at Laguna Seca Jan Magnussen in his Corvette C6R was violently sent into the wall by another competitor at the finishing straight at nearly 200 km/h. Since that Jan has suffered with pains.
The data from the team shows that Jan at Laguna Seca California was subjected to forces measuring up to 52G, which in itself strains the body to extremes and has caused severe pains. Directly after the accident Jan Magnussen was examined at the track medical center and was declared fit. But the pains in the pelvis area that continued made Jan contact Team Denmark for a closer examination that showed a fractured coccyx and the pains from the ribs were caused by bleeding around these. It can’t be treated with anything apart from resting and painkillers for at least 6 weeks before the fracture to the coccyx has healed, so it was fortunate that the crash happened at the last race of the season even though Magnussen has been forced to postpone a couple of important tests.
"I’am still in pain, so I wanted another checkup by a doctor. Naturally my entire body hurts after such a crash, but I continued to suffer these severe pains and now we know why" says Jan Magnussen who still is outraged by having been driven into the wall. "To me and the team it is perfectly clear what happened at the accident and what happened just before that, and I must admit that I’m outraged by that dirty trick."
At the last race of the ALMS Championship at Laguna Seca Jan Magnussen in his Corvette C6R was violently sent into the wall by another competitor at the finishing straight at nearly 200 km/h. Since that Jan has suffered with pains.
The data from the team shows that Jan at Laguna Seca California was subjected to forces measuring up to 52G, which in itself strains the body to extremes and has caused severe pains. Directly after the accident Jan Magnussen was examined at the track medical center and was declared fit. But the pains in the pelvis area that continued made Jan contact Team Denmark for a closer examination that showed a fractured coccyx and the pains from the ribs were caused by bleeding around these. It can’t be treated with anything apart from resting and painkillers for at least 6 weeks before the fracture to the coccyx has healed, so it was fortunate that the crash happened at the last race of the season even though Magnussen has been forced to postpone a couple of important tests.
"I’am still in pain, so I wanted another checkup by a doctor. Naturally my entire body hurts after such a crash, but I continued to suffer these severe pains and now we know why" says Jan Magnussen who still is outraged by having been driven into the wall. "To me and the team it is perfectly clear what happened at the accident and what happened just before that, and I must admit that I’m outraged by that dirty trick."
10-27-2009, 06:34 PM
#4
Burning Brakes
Not a "Bergmeister defender" but...
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
Last edited by cgh1; 10-27-2009 at 06:37 PM.
10-27-2009, 06:44 PM
#5
Not a "Bergmeister defender" but...
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
10-27-2009, 07:00 PM
#6
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
10-27-2009, 07:40 PM
#7
From: www.janmagnussen.com
The data from the team shows that Jan at Laguna Seca California was subjected to forces measuring up to 52G, which in itself strains the body to extremes and has caused severe pains.
The data from the team shows that Jan at Laguna Seca California was subjected to forces measuring up to 52G, which in itself strains the body to extremes and has caused severe pains.
In doing some further reading on the subject tonight, this paper seemed a very interesting read:
Human Tolerance and Crash Survivability
It is also interesting to consider that because the fracture was of the Coccyx it is quite possible that the fracture occured not during the initial hit, but on the rebound of Jan's body back into the seat following the impact with the wall.
Very interesting stuff, and the best recovery to Jan
10-27-2009, 08:07 PM
#8
So. It's official then...
Jorg is a pain in the ***.
Seriously, I hope Jan recovers quickly and fully so he can kick some coccyx next season.
It would be truly great if the "bad boy" vettes could take the high road and hand them their coccyxes (sp?) anyway.
Jorg is a pain in the ***.
Seriously, I hope Jan recovers quickly and fully so he can kick some coccyx next season.
It would be truly great if the "bad boy" vettes could take the high road and hand them their coccyxes (sp?) anyway.
10-27-2009, 08:10 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
For me this is not a Vette/Porsche thing. I have owned both and appreciate them for what they are. This is a rules issue. Did Jan break the rules in the pit lane incident. Yes, a bone head move, and he paid the price. Was there a rule broken in the bump that occured in the last corner? No. Was there a rule violation in the drag race to the finish? Yes. Once the Vette was next to the Porsche, the Porsche should not have kept pushing him to the wall.
Dean
10-27-2009, 08:32 PM
#11
Safety Car
Not a "Bergmeister defender" but...
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
It was not clear if Jan intentionally made a run & dive bomb, intentionally didn't brake enough, or just flat out ran out of talent - in T11 on the last lap - but whatever the reason, he did give Bergie a significant tap that resulted in a big wiggle and delayed throttle application. And in the straight, it was abundantly clear that Jan was going to take FULL advantage of the tap and resulting lift & delay to throttle that it had caused.
I mean, let's face it - he'd already cheated the pit-out blend line and been called on it & forced to relinquish position the previous lap. Jan was being a very bad boy.
Needless to say, the retaliation was clearly intentional and Bergie even said that he returned the favor in post race interviews.
As a pro racer, I understand Bergie's response BUT on the day of that race, my face went pale and I even said out loud that Jan deserved to get some back but THAT was an out of hand / extreme response. A protest would have been the more politically correct approach. I was amazed that there was no official call on the incident post race. No protests were mentioned either.
Now, to Bergie's defense (somewhat), Jan did not have to stay flat out when the Porsche began moving over on him to squeeze him out. In a sense - he kind of PIT'd himself by staying full wood until the two cars were in position to induce a PIT on the Vette.
Let's not forget that that was not only for race position but also driver position in the overall points race.
In my book, it is never ok to forcibly make contact with another race car. $#|+ happens in the course of racing but to intentionally make contact to throw someone off line or cause them to have to give up position is flat out cheating. I'm with Randy P. on that subject.
I like both drivers; they are both decent people and very competitve drivers who always put on a good show. In this case though, the show got a little extreme... I think from both of them.
I wish Jan a speedy recovery!
10-27-2009, 09:56 PM
#13
Burning Brakes
I don't take Bergie to be that sort intentionally personally though. In all fairness, T11 is a VERY slow turn (competes with the Cork Screw for slowest on the track) that requires huge braking. Racing into the turn, it's plausible that he cooked it and had to make an adjustment - if it looks as though the dive is sudden in the last moment.
There are only two people who have the real memory of what happened. And we aint it.
I love racin'!
10-27-2009, 10:06 PM
#14
Burning Brakes
You guys with super-slomo and all that stuff have no doubt much more opportunity to investigate than I. I'm sure you've seen the footage exponentially more than me.
That's why I draw no conclusions and only offer possibilities.
10-29-2009, 02:50 PM
#17
Melting Slicks
We had the P&M team at a club meeting yesterday and they said the measured the impact at about 55g's and to split hairs the GT2 Corvette crossed the finish line first--the front headlight bucket that is. They also were impressed at how well the aluminum frame held up in the wreck.
10-29-2009, 11:57 PM
#18
Burning Brakes
The impact was so great that the windscreen was ejected immediately. Don't remember if they showed that on TV. I was really concerned about Jan's condition until I heard he was "OK" & released from medical.
Whew! Not a ride anyone wants to go on...
Whew! Not a ride anyone wants to go on...
10-30-2009, 10:40 PM
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I have to say that the last 4 minutes were intense racing. I'm new to the series and was standing on my feet in my basement yelling at the screen a week after the race. When they did the post race recap I don't think anybody said, "Jan, you should have tried harder and sacrificed the car for position" or "Couldn't you have been more aggressive?"
Amazing competition....
Amazing competition....
