Brake Fluid for the track... ATE Type 200
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Brake Fluid for the track... ATE Type 200
I am thinking about buying about 8L of this stuff. Found a place that will do it for $103.60. Thats 12.95 a liter with free shipping. Seems like a good deal.
My car is a 05' C6 Z51 with street tires right now, may go to R-compounds in the fall. Only an intake and cat-back right now with a tune on those so it runs right. As you can tell I am not putting down a ton of power. Eventually I would like to get about 400 rwhp with some Toyo R888s on my old stock wheels for race tires.
The the ATE Type 200 work for my car right now. I am getting ready to be solo approved and move up to the first advanced group in a session or two I would like to think. I am getting a great feel for the car and just want to make sure this will hold up to a track weekend, 8 sessions 20-25 min each 4 each day out Motorsport ranch.
I had Motul RBF 600 in there last time i went out and it held up fine, but it is so expensive.
Since i am not running slicks on a Z06 I would think it should be alright just would like someone to verify it before i buy 8L of it. The reason for the big purchase is free shipping over $100.
Please advise.
My car is a 05' C6 Z51 with street tires right now, may go to R-compounds in the fall. Only an intake and cat-back right now with a tune on those so it runs right. As you can tell I am not putting down a ton of power. Eventually I would like to get about 400 rwhp with some Toyo R888s on my old stock wheels for race tires.
The the ATE Type 200 work for my car right now. I am getting ready to be solo approved and move up to the first advanced group in a session or two I would like to think. I am getting a great feel for the car and just want to make sure this will hold up to a track weekend, 8 sessions 20-25 min each 4 each day out Motorsport ranch.
I had Motul RBF 600 in there last time i went out and it held up fine, but it is so expensive.
Since i am not running slicks on a Z06 I would think it should be alright just would like someone to verify it before i buy 8L of it. The reason for the big purchase is free shipping over $100.
Please advise.
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Well you could sell some to your friends. I think it would take me around eight years to use that much. I wouldn't want it sitting on the shelf that long. Other than that issue, it's decent brake fluid.
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That is a pretty good deal, but as mentioned that's a lot of fluid. A full flush uses less than 2, and if all you do is an occasional HPDE and bleed once before you go, that will last you quite a while with lots of shelf time (don't think this really matters though)
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Well if I flush it before every track event I thought i would use it up pretty fast. There are 4 more track events this year, July Sept Oct and Dec at the track very close to me. Thats 4 events and 4 flushes. That should use most of it.
What is okay shelf life for Brake Fluid, would a year be okay on that stuff?
What is okay shelf life for Brake Fluid, would a year be okay on that stuff?
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and for flushing it's easier to alternate between type 200 and blue, watch for the color change to know you are flushed out. Or spend the money once and run Castrol SRF.
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I switch between ATE blue and typ 200. Running an '05 Z51 on street tires in the high intermediate/advanced groups on Carbotech XP10/XP8s. I don't bleed every event and have yet to boil my fluid, but I think I tend to be pretty easy on brakes.
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It stains the dickens out of the bleeder hose that goes to your drain bottle, and after a few uses makes it difficult to see if any bubbles are coming out of the caliper. I used to alternate between the blue and gold, but now just use the gold.
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I've used Superblue for a long time and have finally given up on it. It stains bleeding hoses and its not a clear cut change from type 200 to the blue - i.e. it blends togther and you get a light blue. It takes a lot of work to get it fully out. I've now switch to Motul 600.
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you guys are wussies. That bleeding hose is cheap as dirt by the foot at Home Depot or Lowes, and it is very clear cut when going from super blue to Motul like I do. I can't imagine that the ATE gold would be much different.
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ATE puts their fluid in metal cans and the cap seals very tight. The shelf life of a 1L can should be a good 2-3 years as long as it's kept in a cabinet and not subjected to a wide variance of air temps.
Eight liters is a bunch to have on hand so maybe you might see if you can get some other guys to chip in on the total cost. Keep 3 cans and that should last a long time. A single 1L can is more than enough to completely flush out the fluid in the master reservoir and the hard lines, flex lines and calipers.
ATE Super Blue may stain the master cylinder reservoir over a long period of time; I have run Super Blue for two years now in my 87 and the plastic reservoir is still clear. The bleed hoses are cheap vinyl and vinyl will be more susceptible to staining especially from brake fluid. Get a 10' coil at Home Depot or Lowe's and just keep cutting off a chunk for a replacement as the old hose gets discolored.
As you progress as a driver and you add stuff like race tires and race-level pads, you may want to move up to Motul or Castrol 600. These fluid have a much higher wet boiling point than ATE.
Eight liters is a bunch to have on hand so maybe you might see if you can get some other guys to chip in on the total cost. Keep 3 cans and that should last a long time. A single 1L can is more than enough to completely flush out the fluid in the master reservoir and the hard lines, flex lines and calipers.
ATE Super Blue may stain the master cylinder reservoir over a long period of time; I have run Super Blue for two years now in my 87 and the plastic reservoir is still clear. The bleed hoses are cheap vinyl and vinyl will be more susceptible to staining especially from brake fluid. Get a 10' coil at Home Depot or Lowe's and just keep cutting off a chunk for a replacement as the old hose gets discolored.
As you progress as a driver and you add stuff like race tires and race-level pads, you may want to move up to Motul or Castrol 600. These fluid have a much higher wet boiling point than ATE.
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Great Feedback from everyone thanks. I ran with Motul RBF 600 the second event i went to, the first time I had a shop flush the system since it was my first time so i don't know what was run.
As I upgrade my car and the brakes will get heavier use from race tires and race pads ill upgrade but for now all I am going for is seat time, the ATE sounds like a good alternative till the 600 is necessary. I ment to say bleed not flush, that makes more sense, i know right now my Motul that was yellow has a much darker color too it so this one might be a full flush till all that is gone.
Thanks for the input, very helpful everyone.
As I upgrade my car and the brakes will get heavier use from race tires and race pads ill upgrade but for now all I am going for is seat time, the ATE sounds like a good alternative till the 600 is necessary. I ment to say bleed not flush, that makes more sense, i know right now my Motul that was yellow has a much darker color too it so this one might be a full flush till all that is gone.
Thanks for the input, very helpful everyone.