dvandentop

WTF dumbest bullsh!t ever. figured if i got my xbox live upgraded to gold i could watch it live but hell not see the small print




like i really give a damn about daliy clips

dvandentop

tried the playon feature david had talked about and still no lucky pretty much SOL unless someone finds a stream they could post up here!

mgarfias

Yep. Well, be pissed at ESPN. Hell, I WILL PAY TO SEE THIS STUFF EVEN IF NOT BROADCAST VIA INTARTUBES

grantar2

Its available on ALMS website. Doesn't your computer hook to your TV? All of mine do. That's what laptops and broad band are for. Lets remember this way ALMS is streaming to all sorts of non-tv, non computer media.

dvandentop

will try the ALMS website tomorrow then but we all know how choppy that can be, didnt know that was an option.

thanks

Everett Ogilvie

Another reason to watch Grand Am racing (excellent coverage). Maybe ALMS will pull their head out someday?

Painrace

I am sure as hell not going to all of that trouble.

Screw the ALMS!

Jim

Everett Ogilvie

Yeah, not the way for the ALMS to secure a fan base in my opinion.

dsvtec

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110317/ALMS/110319917

It won't be available on the ALMS website if you are in the US.

Zoxxo

Uh, guys... Enough already. Do you really think that ALMS did this by choice? Do you not think that would have it otherwise?

Unless your racing series generates enough ratings that the broadcaster can sell enough commercials and turn a profit on the exercise, the only way to get on "real" TV is to BUY the time *and* pay for the production of the shows. That adds up to some serious money and clearly ALMS simply can't afford it at this point.

GrandAm has *all* of it's races showing on Speed. AKA "the NASCAR channel." And who owns GrandAm? Gee...

The combination of FOX/SPEED/NASCAR provides GrandAm with a guaranteed TV deal *despite* the fact that no one watches it and no one attends their races. The same kind of deal has applied to the IRL for the past 15 years - ABC wants to keep the Indy 500 in its portfolio but to do so they have had to swallow showing all the other "no one gives a rat's ***" IRL races on ABC or ESPN in order to keep Indy.

ALMS has no underlying support system - they have to go it alone.

So cut ALMS some slack. They are striving to bring REAL sports car racing to us and they deserve whatever support we can give them for that alone.

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John Shiels

Screw them and their cherry picked teams by tire availability.

Everett Ogilvie

Whatever.... love the racing, but they can't survive until they figure out how to secure a fan base (like NASCAR has). Every form of racing in the world could take a lesson from them.

Zoxxo

1. So far we've heard just one side of this story.

2. How is it the fault of ALMS?

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Rob Willis

Yep, basically you can watch live timing/scoring; that's it.

ALMS - For the Fans - my ***!

mgarfias

They could easily implement a rule saying if you sell tires for use in this series, you have to supply anyone in the series that asks.

gbecton

Not sure that this will work for everyone.
Go to www.corvette-events.com
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Zoxxo

I'd just as soon not have the world's racing series be "race-o-tainment" that dumbs down the technology, makes sure that every single race is "the closest finish in the history of racing", and makes sure that every single car is exactly the same. I can't yawn wide enough to deal with that thought.

"Guaranteed excitement" soon ceases to be exciting. Even the world's best roller coaster becomes boring as hell if you ride it every day and know what to expect at every turn. What makes all great spectator events great is the unexpected so if you do everything you can to eliminate surprises...

No thank you.

GrandAm has been doing everything they can to emulate the CUP/Nationwide success formula for years now yet still no one cares. Maybe the sports car racing enthusiast is different from the carnival bumper car "rubbin' is racin'" enthusiast. maybe the NASCAR model and gimmicks just won't ever gain traction for fundamental reasons. Here's hoping...

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Zoxxo

Maybe. But if you have only ONE supplier then you really have no leverage over what they can/can't do. They can pretty much dictate to the series (or there is no series.)

If you have the current situation... Let's say Michelin says "screw you" and leaves. Can any other tire makers that are participating step up and replace Michelin's level of expenditure and commitment? Do they want to?

All of this stuff is a nutso balancing act between competing interests. You can't just legislate things at will - you can't afford to alienate major players. Everyone has to be willing to compromise along the way with the goal of creating a bigger and better series. Just passing rules like that won't do anything but **** important people off.

ALMS needs Michelin. Michelin does *not* need ALMS.

And anyway, it's not their "fault" regardless.

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John Shiels

AMLS has allowed Michelin to pick and choose or be dictated to by Corvette Racing. That is obvious and not fair racing. Do we really want to see some teams with a major handicap and call it fair racing?

I doubt Michelin is giving tires away so do we really know what this is costing them? Many suppliers have left different series before and the series have continued. If it was not worth Michelin's while they would be gone in a heart beat. I stopped watching Corvette compete against themselves and lonely privateers they feel are no threat. Has AMLS always had Michelin as a tire supplier? Is Michelin the only tire on the grid?

Everett Ogilvie

Could care less who does or does not like Nascar racing - my point was they are masters at marketing whatever racing they do, thus other series should take a lesson. ALMS will blow away like a tumble weed if they don't change what they are doing.