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Old 06-03-2011, 12:11 AM
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http:/d/www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/AGS-11-oz-DOT-5-brake-fluid/_/N-25ah?counter=9&itemIdentifier=540132_0_0 _
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No,its a silicone based DOT 5 and is not appropriate for use. The Valvoline DOT 3 & 4(480 F) or the Prestone DOT 4(500 F) that Autozone offers would be compatible.
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This?
http://m.oreillyauto.com/mt/www.orei...0449&ppt=C0069
Old 06-03-2011, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
It's a DOT 4 brake fluid and suitable for street use. I don't know what you mean by "decent" so I can't comment if this particular brake fluid meets your own requirements.

Here's a link explaining the differences between DOT 3, 4, 5, and 5. brake fluid standards.
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^ Good link... I always get confused betwen 3, 4 and 5.1. I do remember that 5 is silicone based and non-compatible with most braking systems. If I remember correctly a few motorcycles use DOT 5.
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Finally, Castrol SRF is a racing brake fluid that is in a class by itself with patented chemistry and is, in my opinion, the best racing brake fluid on the market today.



from stoptech white papers

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Try ATE Blue.
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I hope so John. I just dumped the ATE out and am trying the SRF on Monday. It'll be a good enough test. Road Atlanta, 90 degree day, fresh brake pads, fresh bleed. We'll see if I am or am not boiling fluid as some suspect. For the cost it better do something...
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Originally Posted by vms4evr
I hope so John. I just dumped the ATE out and am trying the SRF on Monday. It'll be a good enough test. Road Atlanta, 90 degree day, fresh brake pads, fresh bleed. We'll see if I am or am not boiling fluid as some suspect. For the cost it better do something...
If most of the ALMS P1 and P2 cars can't boil it, and you do - something else needs help...
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I've been running ATE Superblue for years w/o issue. SRF is nice, but it's more than I care to spend on brake fluid.
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Originally Posted by Everett Ogilvie
If most of the ALMS P1 and P2 cars can't boil it, and you do - something else needs help...
They have bigger brakes per pound and better cooling to boot.
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Originally Posted by Everett Ogilvie
If most of the ALMS P1 and P2 cars can't boil it, and you do - something else needs help...
I was consistently ~20* away from boiling SRF in my T1 car for a while..
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I have been using this DOT 5.1 fluid from NAPA:
https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...006443459&An=0
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
They have bigger brakes per pound and better cooling to boot.
For sure, and that really was my point - if a combination of extreme duty and component selection (hardware) is able to boil the best racing fluid available, then the components need to be looked into, don't you agree?

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Originally Posted by Everett Ogilvie
For sure, and that really was my point - if a combination of extreme duty and component selection (hardware) is able to boil the best racing fluid available, then the components need to be looked into, don't you agree?

yes
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what was the stuff essex just starting carrying? looked like good stuff, srf for myself though
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Originally Posted by travisnd
I've been running ATE Superblue for years w/o issue. SRF is nice, but it's more than I care to spend on brake fluid.
Been running ATE for a while in TT with no issues, but had an obvious problem in March in the Thunder race. Going to try something different next time I hit the grid for a 45min race.

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Originally Posted by sperkins
Been running ATE for a while in TT with no issues, but had an obvious problem in March in the Thunder race. Going to try something different next time I hit the grid for a 45min race.
10-4... I just can't see spending $80 or whatever it is on a bottle of fluid. But if that's what it takes so be it.
Old 06-06-2011, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by John Shiels



from stoptech white papers
SRF is simply the best BF on the planet

Originally Posted by R Mackow
Try ATE Blue.
ATE Blue/Amber is an excellent choice

Originally Posted by vms4evr
I hope so John. I just dumped the ATE out and am trying the SRF on Monday. It'll be a good enough test. Road Atlanta, 90 degree day, fresh brake pads, fresh bleed. We'll see if I am or am not boiling fluid as some suspect. For the cost it better do something...
You don't have to hope...it's the best

Originally Posted by travisnd
I've been running ATE Superblue for years w/o issue. SRF is nice, but it's more than I care to spend on brake fluid.
Oh come on...$80 for brakefluid when your spending thousands on track events?????

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10-4... I just can't see spending $80 or whatever it is on a bottle of fluid. But if that's what it takes so be it.
$80 on BF that lasts all season???

That said I've used SRF and it is awesome...it lasts the whole year (6 events) without worry...but ATE Blue/Amber or Motul performs very, very well. No issues with them either...and I'm hell on brakes.

So 2-3 flushes of ATE or just put in the SRF once, it's about the same.

I would say though that Motul, ATE, or SRF anything else and your rolling the dice...OK for an AutoX, not OK for Road America
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
They have bigger brakes per pound and better cooling to boot.
If you do the math, a 900 kg P1 car going 200 mph into T10 has virtually the same energy as a 3300 lb Z06 going 155 mph into T10.

Wonder how they'd stop after 1 hr with 12.80x1.25 front hardware and slide rail PBRs.


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