Left Foot Braking - Who Does it
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Left Foot Braking - Who Does it
Back when I use to do a lot of autocrossing (not really competitively, just out there for fun) I would left foot brake. I initially learned it in karting way back when. On an AX course, where you typically shift to 2nd and stay there, LFB came natural to me. Whether or not it made me faster is another story but it did make me more comfortable, consistent and confident.
For the past 4 years I've been doing 10-13 track events per year and have never got the hang of LFB on the track. This is mostly due to lack of trying but also because many corners have a shift involved, which makes LFB with a standard H-pattern tranny next to impossible (for me at least). The faster speeds (vs AX) and the potentially higher price of a mistake also contribute to my reluctance to practice the technique.
I'm curious who out there does LFB and how you went about learning the technique? (Duh - practice, practice, practice...but where? on the street, on the track at lower speeds, just throw caution to the wind and do it?)
For the past 4 years I've been doing 10-13 track events per year and have never got the hang of LFB on the track. This is mostly due to lack of trying but also because many corners have a shift involved, which makes LFB with a standard H-pattern tranny next to impossible (for me at least). The faster speeds (vs AX) and the potentially higher price of a mistake also contribute to my reluctance to practice the technique.
I'm curious who out there does LFB and how you went about learning the technique? (Duh - practice, practice, practice...but where? on the street, on the track at lower speeds, just throw caution to the wind and do it?)
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Back when I use to do a lot of autocrossing (not really competitively, just out there for fun) I would left foot brake. I initially learned it in karting way back when. On an AX course, where you typically shift to 2nd and stay there, LFB came natural to me. Whether or not it made me faster is another story but it did make me more comfortable, consistent and confident.
For the past 4 years I've been doing 10-13 track events per year and have never got the hang of LFB on the track. This is mostly due to lack of trying but also because many corners have a shift involved, which makes LFB with a standard H-pattern tranny next to impossible (for me at least). The faster speeds (vs AX) and the potentially higher price of a mistake also contribute to my reluctance to practice the technique.
I'm curious who out there does LFB and how you went about learning the technique? (Duh - practice, practice, practice...but where? on the street, on the track at lower speeds, just throw caution to the wind and do it?)
For the past 4 years I've been doing 10-13 track events per year and have never got the hang of LFB on the track. This is mostly due to lack of trying but also because many corners have a shift involved, which makes LFB with a standard H-pattern tranny next to impossible (for me at least). The faster speeds (vs AX) and the potentially higher price of a mistake also contribute to my reluctance to practice the technique.
I'm curious who out there does LFB and how you went about learning the technique? (Duh - practice, practice, practice...but where? on the street, on the track at lower speeds, just throw caution to the wind and do it?)
.......................however I now have a A6 with paddle shifters so it's a lot easier to do. as to practice the street is a good place as speeds are slower and you have more time to manage the learning process. However the pedal travel required makes it a lot harder to do on the street
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I started in Karting when I was a kid and then also used it in formula cars later on. The best way to do it is driving around your neighborhood or something of that nature, just make sure there isn't someone behind you. The other way you can practice is by karting, or take your car out and practice on a skid pad or something like that. You don't really want to "learn" on track unless you have some experience with it. The biggest change other than the muscle memory will be the pedal travel. It's hard to mimic really jamming on the brake pedal with your left foot. Each car has different pedal travel, and that is something that throws a lot of people off.
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I practice it in my truck so that I'm comfortable with it, but I can never bring myself to do it on track. A good place to use it would be when tapping the brakes to get the car settled for Soutbend at VIR... I'm always going to fast there to try something new. I need to go out in a random HPDE session and try it.
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I left foot brake 100% with my daily drivers as they're all slush boxes, but I haven't tried it with the Corvette. I worry that with my big feet I'm going to get my shoes caught in the pedals and have a bit too much excitement out on the course.
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I tried it with my last car ('05 GTO) during a track day after practicing on the street. The first thing I discovered was how much I actually used my left foot to keep me positioned in the stock seat. Now that I have a proper track seat and harness in my Z06, I haven't had the chance to try it.
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I converted over to LFB on my automatic pickup last year and it's completely natural for me to do it now, whether stuck in traffic or whatever. But I haven't yet tried it on the track.
jas
#10
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I did it in my GT1 car (manual brakes). It also had a Jerico trans so that helped alot. I would clutch on the upshifts (my left foot wasn't doing anything anyway) and stand on the brakes with my left foot, blip the throtle with my right and downshift. /:\
#11
Drifting
I left foot brake any zone that does not require a shift. Starting a couple of weeks prior to an event, I left foot brake my daily driver to retrain the stupid left foot. I also take the opportunity to left foot brake the ENTIRE course at least once a track event.
#12
I read somewhere that left foot braking would be faster around the track and that a good way to learn was to practice with your street car. SO I thought.....OK!! First time I tried it, I damn near went thru the windshield. Its not as easy as it seems .....and I still brake with my right foot.
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I read somewhere that left foot braking would be faster around the track and that a good way to learn was to practice with your street car. SO I thought.....OK!! First time I tried it, I damn near went thru the windshield. Its not as easy as it seems .....and I still brake with my right foot.
Remove the brake booster. That way the amount of pressure you put on the clutch is similar to the pressure you use on the brake, so those massively-developed left leg muscles don't do this to you.
Then you get in a buddy's car which has a booster. The first time you go for the brakes: through the windshield you go.
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I use it at VIR at T3, T4, T10 and Southbend. It works well when you just need settle car, but it does take practice. Helps to keep heel on floor, not lifted off floor. I dd my car so I get plenty of practice on street.
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I have left foot heel-and-toe pretty well mastered, but still am experiencing trouble with right foot clutching.
Over the winter, we'll be instaling a backwards-facing containment seat, and that should help.
Ed
Over the winter, we'll be instaling a backwards-facing containment seat, and that should help.
Ed
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#19
Drifting
i do it in corners with no shift and, occassionally will tap it briefly with the left foot when approaching the brake zone from a high speed straight to make sure I have a pedal, then right foot on the brake and downshift.