Goodrich vs Hoosier
03-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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Goodrich vs Hoosier
Have been looking at the BFGoodrich g-Force R1 for time trail. Has anyone used these tires and if so how do they compare to Hoosier A6's
03-27-2012, 06:18 PM
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BFG did a presentation to us at NCCC convention and gave us all their test data comparing R1's to their competition. Same car, same track, same driver, same day.
R1's picked up over 1 second on the track over their closest competitor.
I'd hazard a guess the engineering guys wouldn't have gone backwards on their results...
I personally haven't run R1's in a long time. I bought scrub Goodyear Eagle slicks from John Burget. At $100 ea. it was far cheaper and I had WAY more grip than the BFG's.
03-27-2012, 07:11 PM
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Agreed...
They need some heat to get the best out of them. A6s are much better in all-out performance for a Solo or Time Trial situation @ the expense of shorter life.
Z07, those are the old R1s & data is a bit stale, too.
They need some heat to get the best out of them. A6s are much better in all-out performance for a Solo or Time Trial situation @ the expense of shorter life.
Z07, those are the old R1s & data is a bit stale, too.
03-27-2012, 07:14 PM
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Agreed. Maybe a tad bit slower.
At the SCCA Runoffs in September I heard from some drivers that they have come out with a faster R1 compound to compete with the A6, but I have no confirmation.
There is also a faster A6, I heard it called the A7, on the horizon. It is supposedly about a second faster and has better wear/heat cycling characteristics. Look for it in the fall of this year. This is information not confirmed or denied in formal communication with Hoosier folks. I heard it from a little birdee.
Oli
At the SCCA Runoffs in September I heard from some drivers that they have come out with a faster R1 compound to compete with the A6, but I have no confirmation.
There is also a faster A6, I heard it called the A7, on the horizon. It is supposedly about a second faster and has better wear/heat cycling characteristics. Look for it in the fall of this year. This is information not confirmed or denied in formal communication with Hoosier folks. I heard it from a little birdee.
Oli
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03-27-2012, 07:27 PM
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As I said...I don't expect the engineers went backwards...
They were cutting-edge then, and I'm sure they've continued to be so. Manufacturers don't get a lot of sales by saying "We are #2"...do they?
BFG have always had good race rubber...if I were to go backwards and use DOT-rated tires again I'd (likely) go with them again.
They were cutting-edge then, and I'm sure they've continued to be so. Manufacturers don't get a lot of sales by saying "We are #2"...do they?
BFG have always had good race rubber...if I were to go backwards and use DOT-rated tires again I'd (likely) go with them again.
03-27-2012, 11:31 PM
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Unfortunately, BFG de-emphasized their "grassroots" motorsports stuff for several years and "came back" only a few years ago.
The Hoosier A6 is a more successful tire given SCCA Solo Nationals results (pure domination in all the classes that mandate DOT tires) and also SCCA Runoffs (particularly the "big cars" like T1 and A-Sedan). BGF has had success in SCCA club racing on some of the smaller showroom stock classes.
At least in my little arena of autocross/solo, BFG was a dominant tire 'til the mid-90s when Kumho and Hoosier put in a more concentrated effort and BFG curtailed their participation.
To me, results at the premiere events tell the story.
The Hoosier A6 is a more successful tire given SCCA Solo Nationals results (pure domination in all the classes that mandate DOT tires) and also SCCA Runoffs (particularly the "big cars" like T1 and A-Sedan). BGF has had success in SCCA club racing on some of the smaller showroom stock classes.
At least in my little arena of autocross/solo, BFG was a dominant tire 'til the mid-90s when Kumho and Hoosier put in a more concentrated effort and BFG curtailed their participation.
To me, results at the premiere events tell the story.
03-28-2012, 12:33 AM
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03-28-2012, 12:53 AM
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raced on r1's for awhile (spec tire for Mustang challenge) think they would hold in there longer than a A6, in the Mustang FR500 I would get almost as fast as lap times the day before at practice as on my my qualifying laps with stickers, crazy thing is we had to run 235 all the way around on those heavy bricks. Would like to try them on z06 in the right size and see how they do.
03-28-2012, 10:21 AM
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Just an FYI BFGoodrich doesn't offer contingency for TT only W2W with NASA so if you want the chance to win tires in TT Hoosier, Goodyear, Yokohama or Toyo all have contingencies.
03-28-2012, 10:38 AM
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For TT Hoosier is still the best game in town. Yoko's contingency is only on their full race clicks which cost nearly $2000 a set and you have to take a 0.75 hit on power/weight to run slicks. Toyo doesn't currently make a tire that can keep up with a Hoosier that I know of.
