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Variation of Power Loss Through Drive Train/Differentials?

Old 04-02-2012, 10:39 PM
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Does anyone know what the approximate power train horsepower loss is through a stock differential vs. Quaife vs. OS Giken and other diffs. Is there much difference?
Old 04-02-2012, 11:53 PM
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Depends on mass of the diff. Your frictional losses will all be in the gear set/trans/drive line, not the diff (assuming straight line, no slippage). I'd imagine the differences would be slight as the diff itself is fairly small diameter compared to, say, a wheel/tire combo.
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Originally Posted by mgarfias
Depends on mass of the diff. Your frictional losses will all be in the gear set/trans/drive line, not the diff (assuming straight line, no slippage). I'd imagine the differences would be slight as the diff itself is fairly small diameter compared to, say, a wheel/tire combo.

Yeah, I figure so, too, but I am wondering if the torson style gear diff of the Quaife I have sucks out more power that the stock or OS Giken clutch type.

My Quaife itself is rather heavy with all the gears inside. It sure does get hot, too.


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The Quaife should get hot when "working" (in turns). Otherwise I don't think it would eat more power since the spyder gears don't move when the wheels are at the same speed.
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Originally Posted by RX-Ben
The Quaife should get hot when "working" (in turns). Otherwise I don't think it would eat more power since the spyder gears don't move when the wheels are at the same speed.
Good point.
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How often are you going perfectly straight though?
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Good point, but I think it is academic since corrections or passing maneuvers on a straight will not excite the diff much.
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I know, I'm just being pedantic. Though i admit to now being curious about how much slipping the diffs do on the "straights" and how much power loss that amounts to.

Would a locker (wiessman or detroit) be different? Or how about going Mark Donohue style and running a spool?
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Rule of thumb used to be 20 percent plus or minus. For example a stock LT1 Corvette at 300HP will put down between 247 and 257 on a dyno by the post information I have. Thats not 20 percent but you get the picture.
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I can't see how a properly functioning limited slip would cause hp loss since it is "locked" on a dyno.
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Originally Posted by Olitho
It sure does get hot, too.
I used to run a Quaife diff on a FWD car, it generated massive amounts of heat in the transaxle. It was also worth several seconds a lap compared to the stock open diff!
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Originally Posted by Canam
Rule of thumb used to be 20 percent plus or minus. For example a stock LT1 Corvette at 300HP will put down between 247 and 257 on a dyno by the post information I have. Thats not 20 percent but you get the picture.
He's asking about loss from the differential unit itself, not from the entire driveline.

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