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Old 06-21-2013, 01:38 PM
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Stock C4 on Continental DWS's. Driven for occasional road trips but primarily "moonshine runs" (What would you call running the back-roads of WV in a spirited fashion?) and autox. The numbers are "Advanced street" from VBP I believe.

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Toe 0"
Camber 0.25* neg
Caster 5.0-7.0* pos

Rear

Toe 1/8in
Camber 0.50* neg
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More aggressive less aggressive? Am I able to get those numbers on stock parts? Thoughts in general?
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Need more negative camber at both ends..

Grind down the conical spacers on the upper control arm mount, or move the thinner rear one to the front and cut off the front one to make it a bunch thinner than the rear one was and that will get you some more camber. You want at least -1 degrees, or 2 if you can get it. If you are running in a stock autocross class you can't do that, but if you aren't go for it, or get a set of offset lower control arm bushings.

In the back you want -1.2 degrees. That will make the car stick like it is on rails.
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Originally Posted by Bicyclewrench
More aggressive less aggressive? Am I able to get those numbers on stock parts? Thoughts in general?
If you want to stay stock just put a bit more negative in the rear, about -1.2 as I said above and you are in pretty good shape. You would like more negative in the front but you can't get there with stock parts. You'll be lucky to get the -.25 without modding something.
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Originally Posted by Bicyclewrench
More aggressive less aggressive? Am I able to get those numbers on stock parts? Thoughts in general?
The previous answers should point you in the right direction. I don't have enough familiarity with the C4 platform to tell you whether it's achievable.

More camber = better The real tire eater is toe, not camber, even with much higher numbers like I run on the street (-2 fr, -1.5 r) so as long as you keep your toe numbers in check you'll be fine. But again, more = better in turns, worse in braking and accelerating.
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Without a tire budget I was trying to stay legal for stock Autox for now.

So -1.2 rear camber
- .25 front (or as much negative as possible on stock stuff) and still streetable?

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Originally Posted by Bicyclewrench
Without a tire budget I was trying to stay legal for stock Autox for now.

So -1.2 rear camber
- .25 front (or as much negative as possible on stock stuff) and still streetable?

Absolutely and Ludedude is right, keep the toe low to a bit in and you won't eat front tires and you'll be fine. Your toe settings are right on at both ends. Enjoy..

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Originally Posted by Solofast
Absolutely and Ludedude is right, keep the toe low to a bit in and you won't eat front tires and you'll be fine. Your toe settings are right on at both ends. Enjoy..
Gracias!
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Originally Posted by Bicyclewrench
Without a tire budget I was trying to stay legal for stock Autox for now.

So -1.2 rear camber
- .25 front (or as much negative as possible on stock stuff) and still streetable?

I got about -.75 on both sides in the front, -1.25 in the rear camber.
Stock toe settings. Wears tires just fine, does track the road a bit compared to stock settings. Handling difference is night and day.

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