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Old 11-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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Has anyone done a stock suspension model like the one in this link
http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets16.html
I'm not sure what everything means and teaching yourself is somewhat difficult
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Search for Brian Cunningham threads. Some time ago he was doing some work in this area, but it was targeted at the C4. Not sure how deeply he went into it.
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I have, somewhere, a suspension model for C5.

As you would probably suspect.

What do you want to know?

DG
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Originally Posted by eogel
Search for Brian Cunningham threads. Some time ago he was doing some work in this area, but it was targeted at the C4. Not sure how deeply he went into it.
I have a Solidworks model for the C4
haven't put it into an analysis program
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Just trying to figure out the perfect spring rates/frequency for *****-n-giggles. Im not keeping this car for much longer but I thought Id try to understand these things before setting up my C6Z
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Originally Posted by DG-FNR
I have, somewhere, a suspension model for C5.

As you would probably suspect.

What do you want to know?

DG
I just did some reading, you're kind of a big deal in auto-x!
Prepare for numerous dumb questions about setup!
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Originally Posted by DG-FNR
I have, somewhere, a suspension model for C5.

As you would probably suspect.

What do you want to know?

DG
Can you figure out CG from a model and actual measured ride height? I must need corner weights for this correct?
What angle do I want my control arms at for optimal camber gain/ride height
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Originally Posted by 383
Can you figure out CG from a model and actual measured ride height? I must need corner weights for this correct?
Here's how I do it.

http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=22
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Originally Posted by geerookie
If you only raise the car 10", you will get a 30# to 50#number change. Not enough when a 5# change will equal 1.5" difference in CG height.

You will have to raise the end of the car 30" to get a worthwhile reading.

Yes, it is scary....
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Originally Posted by geerookie
Awesome thanks for the link!
What do you guys use for locking the shocks in place?
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Originally Posted by jtmck
If you only raise the car 10", you will get a 30# to 50#number change. Not enough when a 5# change will equal 1.5" difference in CG height.

You will have to raise the end of the car 30" to get a worthwhile reading.

Yes, it is scary....
Depending on the total weight of the car F/R bias and wheel base that MAY be true.

Where are you coming up with a 1.5" CG height change as a result of a 5lb diff.? What's the math?
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What do you guys use to keep the suspension from moving while lifting?
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Originally Posted by geerookie
Depending on the total weight of the car F/R bias and wheel base that MAY be true.

Where are you coming up with a 1.5" CG height change as a result of a 5lb diff.? What's the math?
Using your calculation formula....

Insert car numbers, including the 10" raised height, then change the loaded number by 5#, result difference is how much?

This is why I had to use 30" height.

Jim M.
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I'm surprised Morse Measurments doesn't have a Vette in their catalog of K&C data:

http://www.morsemeasurements.com/pro...-car-database/
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Originally Posted by 383
What do you guys use to keep the suspension from moving while lifting?
Are you guys doing this without locking the suspension from moving?
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Originally Posted by 383
Are you guys doing this without locking the suspension from moving?
You remove the shocks and springs. Replace the shocks with a solid link, adjustable to ride height.
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Originally Posted by jtmck
You remove the shocks and springs. Replace the shocks with a solid link, adjustable to ride height.
Where would one go about finding one of these, or 4?

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