Caution on 1969 on eBay
#1
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Caution on 1969 on eBay
Fellow Forum members, please be wary of this ad/seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261591005393?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I have an unusual situation in that I have a deposit down on this car that is now listed on eBay. The Seller was supposedly going to be on the Pidgeon Forge Rod Run from 9/7 until 9/14, so, I didn't think too much about being in a "rush" to get an inspection done. Amazingly, it showed up on eBay when he's out of town. Hmmm.
I was trying to have the car inspected around the Labor Day holiday but had trouble arranging it that weekend due to the holiday. Flights were difficult/expensive as well. Long story, short, the seller told me NOT to send an inspector OR fly out to look at it. Just send the full purchase price via cashier's check. Well, obviously that wasn't going to happen. You'll see a thread in the C3 General section where I started asking for "eyes" on the ground in the area back around 9/5. Major concerns-NO trim tag for this rare combo, NOM motor, no clear title in his name, etc. Thought if I put eyes on it in person or via inspection, I could at least figure out if it was a true Black car and what the engine was out of. GA Bill of Sale with an apparent "floating" WV title. Not sure. Was going to look at it as well. Don't know if he ever tried to cash my deposit check but I dang sure haven't gotten it back. No animosity, just a car deal gone bad.
Oh, and at one point when I was setting up a potential inspection, there WAS a lift available, then that option went away once I got a hold of an inspection service. Just didn't get that warm, fuzzy feeling I'd like to have when possibly buying a car. Not accusing of any kind of scam, but, would be nice if he'd return my deposit check since he's offered the car for sale to the world.
Feel free to question him at will about the engine, lack of trim tag, mismatched interior, and lack of fender rub with a lowered front end.
Further details via p.m. if interested. Mods feel free to move or monitor the thread as necessary.
Best,
P.O.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261591005393?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I have an unusual situation in that I have a deposit down on this car that is now listed on eBay. The Seller was supposedly going to be on the Pidgeon Forge Rod Run from 9/7 until 9/14, so, I didn't think too much about being in a "rush" to get an inspection done. Amazingly, it showed up on eBay when he's out of town. Hmmm.
I was trying to have the car inspected around the Labor Day holiday but had trouble arranging it that weekend due to the holiday. Flights were difficult/expensive as well. Long story, short, the seller told me NOT to send an inspector OR fly out to look at it. Just send the full purchase price via cashier's check. Well, obviously that wasn't going to happen. You'll see a thread in the C3 General section where I started asking for "eyes" on the ground in the area back around 9/5. Major concerns-NO trim tag for this rare combo, NOM motor, no clear title in his name, etc. Thought if I put eyes on it in person or via inspection, I could at least figure out if it was a true Black car and what the engine was out of. GA Bill of Sale with an apparent "floating" WV title. Not sure. Was going to look at it as well. Don't know if he ever tried to cash my deposit check but I dang sure haven't gotten it back. No animosity, just a car deal gone bad.
Oh, and at one point when I was setting up a potential inspection, there WAS a lift available, then that option went away once I got a hold of an inspection service. Just didn't get that warm, fuzzy feeling I'd like to have when possibly buying a car. Not accusing of any kind of scam, but, would be nice if he'd return my deposit check since he's offered the car for sale to the world.
Feel free to question him at will about the engine, lack of trim tag, mismatched interior, and lack of fender rub with a lowered front end.
Further details via p.m. if interested. Mods feel free to move or monitor the thread as necessary.
Best,
P.O.
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May I ask a ?
With the market soft, and the abundance of cars out there in most local juridictions, why are you making it difficult for yourself?
Find a local car and look at it and inspect it several times.
Then go from there.
All this travel and scheduling and sending deposits seems like allot of busy work to me. Check Philly Craigs list right now, there ane several good cars right in my back yard. The travel, shipping and other extrianous work to buy a car outta state seems like a big waste of my time.
A car off ebay scares me.
Marshal
With the market soft, and the abundance of cars out there in most local juridictions, why are you making it difficult for yourself?
Find a local car and look at it and inspect it several times.
Then go from there.
All this travel and scheduling and sending deposits seems like allot of busy work to me. Check Philly Craigs list right now, there ane several good cars right in my back yard. The travel, shipping and other extrianous work to buy a car outta state seems like a big waste of my time.
A car off ebay scares me.
Marshal
#5
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The seller has '0' transactions on ebay, and hence no rating. I would not buy from this seller. Ebay trust is largely based on user ratings. Anything below 99% brings the seller or buyer into question.
#8
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Hey Guys, just as further info:
The car was originally on CraigsList in Atlanta. After numerous texts, emails, and phone calls, we agreed on a price, and I sent a deposit and a bill of sale/contract subject to an inspection in person or by a 3rd party paid for by myself. The seller signed & sent the bill of sale back via scan & email while my deposit check & signed copy was in transit to him.
Things got dicey when I was arranging the 3rd party inspection. Again, it was over the Labor Day weekend and nobody was "laboring". It was going to take me a few days to get eyes on the car and the seller got pushy and retracted his offer to have a lift available.....insisting instead on me just sending the full purchase price having never seen the car. I don't play that game.
Oh well. I've stopped payment on the check, had no communication with the guy, and, was simply warning this forum that 1) The car may not be what it is represented to be 2) The seller may be less than forthright.
To the curious posters, yes, it was a "rare" (to me) Black over Tan 1969 with a Tan top. REALLY difficult to find. The fact that the trim tag was completely missing was a red flag, but, figured I could verify the true colors with a hands on viewing or by that of an independent inspector.
Thanks for the advice.
The car was originally on CraigsList in Atlanta. After numerous texts, emails, and phone calls, we agreed on a price, and I sent a deposit and a bill of sale/contract subject to an inspection in person or by a 3rd party paid for by myself. The seller signed & sent the bill of sale back via scan & email while my deposit check & signed copy was in transit to him.
Things got dicey when I was arranging the 3rd party inspection. Again, it was over the Labor Day weekend and nobody was "laboring". It was going to take me a few days to get eyes on the car and the seller got pushy and retracted his offer to have a lift available.....insisting instead on me just sending the full purchase price having never seen the car. I don't play that game.
Oh well. I've stopped payment on the check, had no communication with the guy, and, was simply warning this forum that 1) The car may not be what it is represented to be 2) The seller may be less than forthright.
To the curious posters, yes, it was a "rare" (to me) Black over Tan 1969 with a Tan top. REALLY difficult to find. The fact that the trim tag was completely missing was a red flag, but, figured I could verify the true colors with a hands on viewing or by that of an independent inspector.
Thanks for the advice.
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Hi PO,
E-Bay sale now ended!?!
I hope this doesn't sour you on finding a good car from a reliable seller.
I really think there are very good cars being sold by very good people.
You have to continue to be cautious and do your homework.
So many ads seem to be written by sellers hoping the buyer will be quite dumb.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
E-Bay sale now ended!?!
I hope this doesn't sour you on finding a good car from a reliable seller.
I really think there are very good cars being sold by very good people.
You have to continue to be cautious and do your homework.
So many ads seem to be written by sellers hoping the buyer will be quite dumb.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; 09-15-2014 at 04:34 PM.
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Hi PO,
E-Bay sale now ended!?!
I hope this doesn't sour you on finding a good car from a reliable seller.
I really think there are very good cars being sold by very good people.
You have to continue to be cautious and do your homework.
So many ads seem to be written by sellers hoping the buyer will be quite dumb.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
E-Bay sale now ended!?!
I hope this doesn't sour you on finding a good car from a reliable seller.
I really think there are very good cars being sold by very good people.
You have to continue to be cautious and do your homework.
So many ads seem to be written by sellers hoping the buyer will be quite dumb.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
Thanks all........
#11
Le Mans Master
Whoever purchases a car with an apparent "floating" title from another state is simply asking for trouble. What if the title never shows up? Don't be fooled by the Vehicle Purchase Protection ebay puts out there in its auction. It's a joke. Good luck with your search.
#12
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Too messy. Didn't mind playing along as long as I could get there, or, get a paid 3rd party to look at everything. When he got snippety about that inspection is when things blew up. I wish whomever bought it would post here & let us know how it turned out.
Vin #194679S728022 for future reference (hope that's ok, mods).