1000 Ways to Lose
05-27-2012, 08:50 AM
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1000 Ways to Lose
2nd Rd in Pro at Atco, I'm dialed a 10.33, she's 9.43. Leave the line (.051), hit high gear and start looking left (I'm in the R lane). Side window, nothing. Rear quarter window (this is a fox body), nothing. Rear window, nothing. I'm actually looking back at the starting line to see if she broke...still wide open at this point. I'm just before the 1000' now and I figure I'll just coast and get ready for Rd. 3. Then she blows by me 
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
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05-27-2012, 10:16 AM
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I had a friend who, while making the 2-3 shift, had the shifter snap-off, with the T-handle hitting the fuel-pump switch on the dashboard when he had his opponent covered
it happens
it happens
05-27-2012, 04:51 PM
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2nd Rd in Pro at Atco, I'm dialed a 10.33, she's 9.43. Leave the line (.051), hit high gear and start looking left (I'm in the R lane). Side window, nothing. Rear quarter window (this is a fox body), nothing. Rear window, nothing. I'm actually looking back at the starting line to see if she broke...still wide open at this point. I'm just before the 1000' now and I figure I'll just coast and get ready for Rd. 3. Then she blows by me
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
took the car apart this morning, posi it fine but i'm afraid i may have twisted the tailshaft (i can pull the yoke out but i cant push it any farther in)aswell as the destruction below
05-27-2012, 08:12 PM
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2nd Rd in Pro at Atco, I'm dialed a 10.33, she's 9.43. Leave the line (.051), hit high gear and start looking left (I'm in the R lane). Side window, nothing. Rear quarter window (this is a fox body), nothing. Rear window, nothing. I'm actually looking back at the starting line to see if she broke...still wide open at this point. I'm just before the 1000' now and I figure I'll just coast and get ready for Rd. 3. Then she blows by me
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
Only thing I can think of is she was right dead in my blind spot. Or perhaps I'm just blind.
Good to see the Cupolo's there. Shame about the breakage.
You should have not lost site of her from the starting line unless the car was out of the groove. Always know where your adversary- I mean your competitor is at all times. 
05-28-2012, 10:10 AM
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The problem there was not the blind spot it was the coast. It is okay to scrub if you feel safe but I always try to avoid a coast. If you feel safe, figure a way to scrub different amounts of ET...02, .05, somewhere in there. Learn what you scrub with and certain number of throttle blips vs. a quick touch of the brake and even if your opponent is on the starting line, you still are not breaking out.
05-28-2012, 11:08 AM
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The problem there was not the blind spot it was the coast. It is okay to scrub if you feel safe but I always try to avoid a coast. If you feel safe, figure a way to scrub different amounts of ET...02, .05, somewhere in there. Learn what you scrub with and certain number of throttle blips vs. a quick touch of the brake and even if your opponent is on the starting line, you still are not breaking out.
is and I need to be better at that...but the coast (and my pedestrian r/t...she was .035) hurt me more. Making matters worse is I was dialed tight, with little chance of breaking out. A slight lift or tap on the brakes would've been the smarter move.Yet another lesson learned.
05-28-2012, 03:33 PM
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The problem there was not the blind spot it was the coast. It is okay to scrub if you feel safe but I always try to avoid a coast. If you feel safe, figure a way to scrub different amounts of ET...02, .05, somewhere in there. Learn what you scrub with and certain number of throttle blips vs. a quick touch of the brake and even if your opponent is on the starting line, you still are not breaking out.
I've given races away (they were almost guaranteed 'easy wins', I had a much better light each time) while being way out front both ways...by scrubbing off too much and having my opponent fly right by me to take the stripe and also by NOT scrubbing off enough and having them win while still at half track because I broke out. 
I learned a lot from each mistake too but it's still tough out there LOL. 
05-29-2012, 12:13 AM
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A company named Panovex makes a convex mirror to replace the flat mirror an Corvettes. I have one on my C4 bracket car. I had one on my 02Z and currently have one on my C6Z. It's a great add on for the track or the street. It is similar to the passenger's side mirror and gets rid of the blind spot. I have bought these directly from the manufacturer. Ecklers sells these too I believe.
05-29-2012, 11:57 AM
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I've given races away (they were almost guaranteed 'easy wins', I had a much better light each time) while being way out front both ways...by scrubbing off too much and having my opponent fly right by me to take the stripe and also by NOT scrubbing off enough and having them win while still at half track because I broke out. I learned a lot from each mistake too but it's still tough out there LOL. Cost me sometimes but I can live with those loses.
05-29-2012, 12:18 PM
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A company named Panovex makes a convex mirror to replace the flat mirror an Corvettes. I have one on my C4 bracket car. I had one on my 02Z and currently have one on my C6Z. It's a great add on for the track or the street. It is similar to the passenger's side mirror and gets rid of the blind spot. I have bought these directly from the manufacturer. Ecklers sells these too I believe.
05-29-2012, 12:19 PM
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05-30-2012, 06:34 AM
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I feel ya, brother, on losing sight of your opponent...I have been looking for replacements for my crummy stock mirrors on my 81 camaro...they look cool but are useless as teats on a bull...
The rule of thumb on the stripe is if you feel you cannot get your nose in front, dump and feed your opponent the stripe...if you are in front, try to tighten up your MOV as much as possible to avoid breaking out...meaning back up into your opponent so you barely nip him at the stripe...
Folks do this a number of ways...whomping, braking, lifting and combinations of all three....a rule I learned many years ago is never lift off the throttle when applying the brakes...keep it on the floor while mashing the brakes...this way you do not lose momentum if you need to get going again...
Of course, if your opponent breaks or you are on a single, lifting off the gas is just fine...btw, the best bracket racers in the country give back the stripe by .00X every now and then while attempting to tighten it up....
The rule of thumb on the stripe is if you feel you cannot get your nose in front, dump and feed your opponent the stripe...if you are in front, try to tighten up your MOV as much as possible to avoid breaking out...meaning back up into your opponent so you barely nip him at the stripe...
Folks do this a number of ways...whomping, braking, lifting and combinations of all three....a rule I learned many years ago is never lift off the throttle when applying the brakes...keep it on the floor while mashing the brakes...this way you do not lose momentum if you need to get going again...
Of course, if your opponent breaks or you are on a single, lifting off the gas is just fine...btw, the best bracket racers in the country give back the stripe by .00X every now and then while attempting to tighten it up....
05-30-2012, 04:28 PM
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The rule of thumb on the stripe is if you feel you cannot get your nose in front, dump and feed your opponent the stripe...if you are in front, try to tighten up your MOV as much as possible to avoid breaking out...meaning back up into your opponent so you barely nip him at the stripe...
Folks do this a number of ways...whomping, braking, lifting and combinations of all three....a rule I learned many years ago is never lift off the throttle when applying the brakes...keep it on the floor while mashing the brakes...this way you do not lose momentum if you need to get going again...
Of course, if your opponent breaks or you are on a single, lifting off the gas is just fine...btw, the best bracket racers in the country give back the stripe by .00X every now and then while attempting to tighten it up....
Folks do this a number of ways...whomping, braking, lifting and combinations of all three....a rule I learned many years ago is never lift off the throttle when applying the brakes...keep it on the floor while mashing the brakes...this way you do not lose momentum if you need to get going again...
Of course, if your opponent breaks or you are on a single, lifting off the gas is just fine...btw, the best bracket racers in the country give back the stripe by .00X every now and then while attempting to tighten it up....
As for the good ones giving up the stripe, I saw a prime example in the Pro Elim finals last week. Two of Atco's best went at it. Left lane was .007 on the tree, Right lane was .033. Right lane won going dead on 6 and taking .0005 stripe! Left lane driver typically holds a bunch. And amazingly, making 8 passes including time shots, his worst light of the day was .016 (footbraking of course).
I've been hearing that all year.
05-30-2012, 07:27 PM
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Mustang versus Corvette, Atco Raceway, be there! ...............
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05-30-2012, 07:51 PM
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