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So I put my c5z up for sale because I think I have a tall hill to climb that my budget won't allow. I had a turbo Camaro that I traded for my c5z thinking I wasn't going to miss the track and after missing all last year and making only a few passes but going through two trans issues and now a third I have been thinking of selling and buying a LS mustang or another Fbody. I have asked about mid 5s on FB and only got one person that has been 5s in a street car on a p1sc at that. So that gave me alittle hope so I am unsure whether to keep going (paid off and already running and driving) or sell and start all over again.
No new motor is going in at this time. A 416 maybe in future but not for this year.
02 C5Z
RPM auto swap
Trickflow 215s
Blower cam and all supporting mods
Novi 2200r since I don't think the 1500 will get me there?
Or possibly a 1500 with 100 shot or so but prefer one power adder.
Kind of already have blower stuff but I guess I could sell and go turbo but it seems that's requires a lot more fab and $$.
Here are the rules for the class which top 1-4 usually 5.5s with occasional 5.2-5.3 but with allt of new comers.
Heintz Racing Real Street
1. Must have current tag, registration, and inspection
2. Must have working head lights, tail lights, turn signals, and brake lights.
3. Must have 2 front seats and must be padded/covered
4. Must have factory style door panels, dash, carpet, rear seat. (Rear delete kit is permitted) gutted back seats will not be allowed.
5. Windows must be operational (go up and down)*NO LEXAN PERIOD!*
6. RWD vehicles must use Radial tires. No slicks allowed. M/T Pro's ok
7. FWD allowed any tires
8. NO tire changes
9. Exhaust with mufflers, must be within 18 inches of the axle on all cars (FWD has no exhaust requirements)
10. No wheelie bars
11. Fuel cells are permitted
12. Heads up - Pro Tree
13. 3,000 lb min weight
14. Exterior must retain stock style appearance. No forward facing hood scoops or bird catchers allowed. Cowl hood ok. Sheet metal rear spoiler ok. Aftermarket Front Bumper OK (I.E. Schoneck)
15. Coil overs are allowed
******Before 1st qualifying pass there will be a 15-mile cruise, you will come back and go straight to the lanes for a 15 minute cool down. During this time no hoods or trunks can be opened at all!
Thoughts? Do I need to just sell the Z and go back to Fbody or LS Mustang or is it possible to achieve what I want?
That was my thought process too. And even then a level X 4L60 from RPM is not cheap. Which puts me in powerglide/th400 territory, but I don't think I'm ready to be at that point yet as this is still my street and strip car. I was planning on getting something else to cruise around in but until then this has to do both duties.
Would the setup I mention have the power(1500 instead of 2200r) to go high 5s, low 6s on a level 6/7 RPM trans
Well, it's a tough choice. Having a street/track vette is fun and a great driving machine.
The problem, as you know, is for the cost of the glide/9" you could buy a complete F body with all the safety stuff already in it. So, you need to be really dedicated to the vette platform.
I think a properly built 346 with the 2200R will get you to your goals.
If I were to do it over, I'd have a relatively stock Z06 as a driver, and build a track car to run that type of class you're considering.
Yea that was the plan as I had a spare Fbody but ended up selling it and here I am now and honestly my Z isn't that nice to take to shows and such and I have had my eye on a 2010 GS that I was looking to use as a cruiser, but like you said for the price of that I could sell my Z and easily build a 5mid of not faster Fbody for the price of the Z and the cost of putting it in the 5s. Was just hoping some folks would of came in and posted some combos and times to give me some hope. I know my tuner (shoaf85) C5Z will be close to 4s but he did drop the 9in/PG money already and I know David (don't know his SN) went mid 5s on a P1SC but that is a freak car for sure with the little mods it does have.
The problem is we all seem to have a sickness. The C5 is such a stable platform. It feels good going down the track. If you can swing it, I'd do what you can with what you've got. You might have to rebuild your trans from time to time, but it'll be a really fun street car.
Who knows, maybe someone else will come out with an affordable 9" setup.
Looking to run in that class next year, since i'm going to do drag week one last time this year. Would love to see more Vettes, but from a budget standpoint Fox Bodies and F Bodies are a lot cheaper to build.
The funny part is that wih that class and stick class there are a lot vettes.. But there are a few TT and blower coyote cars coming out as well to run real street that I know one has been 5.6s on flower only with a 300shot on tap. There is a c5z coming out of Heintz racing that will be in the mid 5s as well..
Are you running real street or the stick class blkscls1z? Not sure if your auto or manual..
I was thinking of posting the flyer up in this or regional section. There are a lot of vettes that come out.
Me, Heintz racing, shoaf85, a lot of his customers, Anderson in his red c6z, ragnazn in his blue c6z, Phillip Waite in his EB c5z and a few others
Screw it.. I am trying it with the vette. It may be more expensive, but I have it, it's already halfway there and I know if I start another project it probably wouldn't even be running within the time frame or will even get finished
Screw it.. I am trying it with the vette. It may be more expensive, but I have it, it's already halfway there and I know if I start another project it probably wouldn't even be running within the time frame or will even get finished
The funny part is that wih that class and stick class there are a lot vettes.. But there are a few TT and blower coyote cars coming out as well to run real street that I know one has been 5.6s on flower only with a 300shot on tap. There is a c5z coming out of Heintz racing that will be in the mid 5s as well..
Are you running real street or the stick class blkscls1z? Not sure if your auto or manual..
I was thinking of posting the flyer up in this or regional section. There are a lot of vettes that come out.
Me, Heintz racing, shoaf85, a lot of his customers, Anderson in his red c6z, ragnazn in his blue c6z, Phillip Waite in his EB c5z and a few others
I'd be running real street. My car is an auto (4l65). I know of a few folks running in that class including those you mentioned. I wouldn't really be a contender the first year as i'd be looking at only running in the 5.7-8 range on a small shot (150).
Bump this back.. Anyone else with a capable setup?
I'm following your thread here but don't have more to offer that I haven't already talked about in detail on here in dedicated threads. I'll post up about what happens with the F1-A that's on the car now later as the car is going in to get a cage put in it on 3-27-17 at Mayhem Motorsports and a very conservative tune for now. I've watched a few people run with big power with the 4l60e for the past couple of years, much more power than I had. But not go any quicker. On the conservative tune-up out of the shop I'm not expecting more than about 5.50's. Maybe a .40 if Jupiter aligns with Mars, etc. but when Mayhem goes for broke and cranks the wick up to hopefully ~1100 RWHP, we'll find out what that 4l60e is made of. A gentleman that lives over by scott5 is already running a Level X making even more than that with success (no breakage for a year) so we'll see if the bad reputation of the 4l60e jumps up and bites me.
Last edited by smokinstorm; 03-13-2017 at 10:43 PM.
03-05-2017, 06:52 AM
C5Z mid 5s on blower
