formulaWA

Wasn't quite sure where to post this but since this refers to the future of a corvette icon I thought this thread might be appropriate.

In the words of Mark Twain " The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. " It appears GM is planning to continue manufacturing the LS7.

http://www.camaro5.com/breaking-2014-camaro-listed-with-ls7-engine-option

BeaZt

That would be great for those that love the Camaro...if it really happens. But I don't think that there will ever be a an Ls& in a C7 from the factory.

Kappa

Yeah, don't I think any C7 is seeing an LS engine. The next-gen Camaro won't either.

ZL-1

Interesting. Assuming option code "LS7" on a 2014 Camaro is the same engine as code "LS7" on a 2013 Corvette, this would be good news for the PBC in Wixom. I've been been wondering what they'd be building during the lul before the next Z-something Corvette goes into production. A few months ago one of the guys there posted that something interesting was in the works.


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Daekwan06

This is GM we are talking about.

If enough people want to buy it, Of course they will offer the LS7 in a Camaro.

RJ-92

Crate motors?

Jinx

I bet the ATS-V engine will be built there. If they screw up and don't just make it an LT1, that is.

It makes a lot of sense for GM to offer a special edition Camaro with the LS7. It's a fine swan song for both the Fifth-Gen and the LS7, and it's hardly a big engineering job. Drop it into the ZL1 chassis, tune the suspension a skosh for the lighter nose, then hand it over to Styling for a new tie and pocket square.

It'll pimp-slap the Boss 302. Camaro 1LE buyers might kick themselves for not waiting a little longer, though.

not08crmanymore

I do think the 427 option would be cool in the Camaro though... but what about the the 580 in the ZL1? And none of this is really related to the C7 anyway.

Jinx

But this is madness. How can GM expect the 2014 Corvette to sell with a measly 450hp when you can get a Camaro for probably thousands less with over 500hp? They're undercutting their own product.

WaxWeekly

Did you wake up this morning and say, I'm going to stir the fire today...

All they need to do is drop 1000# off the fatso Camaro, lower the center of gravity a half a foot and it would become an interesting option.

Great option for the final year of the Camaro model imho.

RJRSW

I have been driving vettes since I was 17 and by far the lions share of vette owners I have known over the years didn't have a clue or most could care less how many HP their car had.

Unless you are buying the car for the track what practical difference would 450 HP or 500 HP make to the average vette owner that only drives it on the street.

BeaZt

I think they are making a limited run of "Z28"'s.. add the 1LE package and an LS7...and there you have a Z28. With the corvette switching to the LT's I think they may just be trying to unload some LS7's before the 6th Gen Camaro hits and they have found an excellent way to do so. That keeps the ZL1 forklore as the top dog camaro...brings back the Z28 for the fans and leaves the SS and 1LE for the others.

Shurshot

Even though this thread belongs down in the other car section........



The only way I can see the general making a 427 from existing parts would be to use the LS 7 block but match it to an LS 3 top end, and in doing so could circumvent the LS 7's all too frequent dropped valve syndrome.

Lingenfelter does this combination with a hydraulic roller, forged pistons, and wet sump setup that yields 570 reliable horsepower.

I am an old school 427 BB fan but there is no way I would have a motor in any car that I would have to worry about every time I took it out

JoesC5

1967 Corvette had 300 HP(base) with a curb weight of 3155#.

1967 Camero had a 375 HP L78(exact same L78 that was rated at 425HP when in the 1965 Corvette) optional engine, with a curb weight of 3375#.

The camero was the faster of the two.

Both the Corvette and the Camero survived to see 1968.

SanDiegoBert

Yep, and the Musteng, too.

JoesC5

Ooppppps.

CPhelps

Tough crowd, did everyone purposely ignore the smiley at the end?


I think this is a good idea to keep interest in the 5th Gen Camaro as rumors of the 6th Gen based on Alpha and the announcement of it being built in the USA have started a lot of buzz regarding 6th gen, and they definitely have a few more years of gen 5 to sell.

Glad to see Camaro get a higher end V8 in between the LS3 and LSA.

Black 02

Awesome. Nothing worse than seeing Camaro spelled with an "e".

BuddhaZ06

Since 08 I've wanted a red camaro with black hood, and an ls7. But then I found out the weight of the pig

McGirk94LT1

By the numbers, just food for thought.

1LE Camaro: $37,9xx 426hp 3860lbs 9.06lbs/hp

ZL1 Camaro: $54,995 580hp 4120lbs 7.10lbs/hp

Lets jus say ls7 camaro gets 1LE package but zl1 size wheels, and enough drivetrain parts to handle it.

Ls7 Camaro: $XX,XXX 505hp 3890lbs(+30 over the 1LE) 7.70lbs/hp.

That would sorta fall in between the two performance wise, and keep the weight distribution of the 1LE no less. Problem is, I dunno how much cheaper the ls7 is vs lsa or vice versa for GM. On the other hand, you get more then just an engine with the ZL1, so an ls7 camaro could indeed split the difference in price between a 1LE and ZL1.

I dunno. I'm doubtful, but I guess there's a chance they might build a one year z28. I always thought the 1LE name was a fairly obscure choice vs z28.