How fast before kicked off the track?
03-01-2015, 06:01 PM
#1
Le Mans Master
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How fast before kicked off the track?
Anyone know what's the lastest rule with tracks like englishtown and atco? What's the fastest you can go without a roll bar before getting booted. My car is a 2015.
03-01-2015, 11:06 PM
#2
Melting Slicks
I think it depends on your mods... Since I have an 11 GS and I have an aftermarket blower I guess @ e town I can't go faster than 11.5 without a cage and my first pass after driving there with the car hot and all I run 11.2 and they gave me the boot... Atco, is way more lenient and will let you go quicker than e town without making a big deal over it
03-01-2015, 11:15 PM
#3
Le Mans Master
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I think it depends on your mods... Since I have an 11 GS and I have an aftermarket blower I guess @ e town I can't go faster than 11.5 without a cage and my first pass after driving there with the car hot and all I run 11.2 and they gave me the boot... Atco, is way more lenient and will let you go quicker than e town without making a big deal over it
03-01-2015, 11:34 PM
#4
Melting Slicks
That's why I said it depends on your mods... If say we had a zr1 or a ctsv and just had bolt one and were running low 10s we would be ok... But since I added an aftermarket superchar then I need a fire rated jacket, helmet of course and a cage after 11.5 but anything that's bolt on 08 or newer I believe can go down to 10.0...
03-02-2015, 02:46 AM
#5
Le Mans Master
11.5 is an NHRA rule, not the track's. It shouldn't matter how you get there, if you're faster you need a roll bar. Since there are production cars that can go faster I wonder how they are going to keep enforcing this. I think they need to address this down to 10.5. I have a friend whose Nova broke into 9.90's and he had to put in an entire roll cage, even though it's also his DD.
03-02-2015, 06:47 AM
#6
Burning Brakes
Page 10.
http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...Amendments.pdf
Last edited by winstonc; 03-02-2015 at 08:26 AM.
03-02-2015, 11:00 AM
#7
Team Owner
I think if you go to a rental at ATCO you can run faster than 11.5 with out a cage.
03-02-2015, 11:07 AM
#8
Melting Slicks
I think the NHRA rule is 2008 or newer fixed top cars can go 10.0 and 135 mph.
Page 10.
http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...Amendments.pdf
Page 10.
http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...Amendments.pdf
03-02-2015, 11:08 AM
#9
Melting Slicks
03-02-2015, 01:30 PM
#10
Le Mans Master
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This kind of sucks. Doing a supercharger seems pointless then. I try not to mess around on the street but if I can't even take it to the track what's the point. Road racing isn't exactly the best route for a centri car either. What if it's a 2015 cam only car running no faster than 11.5. Is that ok? I'm trying to decide between a blower or a mild heads cam package for my a8
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03-02-2015, 05:39 PM
#11
Melting Slicks
This kind of sucks. Doing a supercharger seems pointless then. I try not to mess around on the street but if I can't even take it to the track what's the point. Road racing isn't exactly the best route for a centri car either. What if it's a 2015 cam only car running no faster than 11.5. Is that ok? I'm trying to decide between a blower or a mild heads cam package for my a8
To get away with going faster than 11.5 n/a... But like I said from my understanding e town doin let me go faster than 11.5 but then again a couple of my friends had the same experience and a couple had a different experience where they dipped into the 10s with no issues I guess it just depends...
03-02-2015, 05:41 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
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You should be able
To get away with going faster than 11.5 n/a... But like I said from my understanding e town doin let me go faster than 11.5 but then again a couple of my friends had the same experience and a couple had a different experience where they dipped into the 10s with no issues I guess it just depends...
To get away with going faster than 11.5 n/a... But like I said from my understanding e town doin let me go faster than 11.5 but then again a couple of my friends had the same experience and a couple had a different experience where they dipped into the 10s with no issues I guess it just depends...
03-02-2015, 08:18 PM
#13
Melting Slicks
03-02-2015, 08:23 PM
#14
Le Mans Master
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Oh I already know. I had an ecs 2200 meth headers c6. The thing is I'm contemplating doing some road course and I like the idea of a simple n/a build. We'll see I'll change my mind 100 times I am sure like lol
03-02-2015, 08:30 PM
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Melting Slicks
03-02-2015, 08:50 PM
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03-06-2015, 07:38 AM
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Each track has its own interpretation of the "2008 Rule" which will allow you to run down to 10.00 with a trap speed no greater than 135 mph. Some tracks insist that for a car to be "stock" it must still have its OEM tires while other tracks may allow a cammed setup since they cannot determine if an aftermarket cam has been installed. However, FI and nitrous are not allowed and 11.50 may be enforced. With that said, our bolt on car has ran 10.0 at 138+ in competition without issue and dipped into the 9s during a T&T. My advice when I host a rental is to use common sense. A track may look the other way if ALL of its participants are in full control of their vehicles. If something feels wrong and/or the car starts to get loose, just bail out of the pass. Tracks will respect you for that. 
Now to answer your other question. A mild H/C setup may allow you to dip well below 11.50 and not raise the ire from track officials. As you know, a FI setup will give you a large power increase and stock driving manners. We enjoy a naturally aspirated setup in our cars and do not feel at a disadvantage. Many street guys I see at the track tend to throw a ton of money into a car; thus producing much more power but never learn how to drive their cars anywhere near their potential. Great for shops but bad for bragging rights. Who cares if a car puts down 700 to the wheels and runs an 11.xx at 140+ ? Plus most of the time, all of that HP is useless on the street. Good luck with whatever route you decide to take.
Now to answer your other question. A mild H/C setup may allow you to dip well below 11.50 and not raise the ire from track officials. As you know, a FI setup will give you a large power increase and stock driving manners. We enjoy a naturally aspirated setup in our cars and do not feel at a disadvantage. Many street guys I see at the track tend to throw a ton of money into a car; thus producing much more power but never learn how to drive their cars anywhere near their potential. Great for shops but bad for bragging rights. Who cares if a car puts down 700 to the wheels and runs an 11.xx at 140+ ? Plus most of the time, all of that HP is useless on the street. Good luck with whatever route you decide to take.
03-10-2015, 01:53 PM
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Drifting
