how to improve C7 Z51 braking ???
#21
Race Director
I have yet to experience a Corvette that needed any more pad than the stockers for auto-x. Remember, the stock pads are designed for awesome initial bite (cold). Since most auto-x cars only run for 60-90 seconds at a time then get to cool off, the stock pads are fine. Now, if you have a car like Richie - which I've seen run 2-drivers at a time in back-to-back-to-back sessions - fade might start to come into play. But for 99% of the auto-x folks, give the stock pads a try and I think you'll be happy.
#22
There, there meldog. I have heard this "brakes aren't necessary..." nonsense many times before for other cars. I didn't believe it then and I certainly do not believe it now. So dream on, little dreamer.
#23
I have yet to experience a Corvette that needed any more pad than the stockers for auto-x. Remember, the stock pads are designed for awesome initial bite (cold). Since most auto-x cars only run for 60-90 seconds at a time then get to cool off, the stock pads are fine. Now, if you have a car like Richie - which I've seen run 2-drivers at a time in back-to-back-to-back sessions - fade might start to come into play. But for 99% of the auto-x folks, give the stock pads a try and I think you'll be happy.
but my major concern is not autocrossing. I just mentioned that in responding to Richie. If you must know, my major concern is fade after multiple, repeated heavy slowing events in a downhill environment. This type of braking can produce fade because of the heat generated. This is because brakes used in this way don't always get enough time to cool between brake applications.
#24
Race Director
thanks doje,
but my major concern is not autocrossing. I just mentioned that in responding to Richie. If you must know, my major concern is fade after multiple, repeated heavy slowing events in a downhill environment. This type of braking can produce fade because of the heat generated. This is because brakes used in this way don't always get enough time to cool between brake applications.
but my major concern is not autocrossing. I just mentioned that in responding to Richie. If you must know, my major concern is fade after multiple, repeated heavy slowing events in a downhill environment. This type of braking can produce fade because of the heat generated. This is because brakes used in this way don't always get enough time to cool between brake applications.
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thanks doje,
but my major concern is not autocrossing. I just mentioned that in responding to Richie. If you must know, my major concern is fade after multiple, repeated heavy slowing events in a downhill environment. This type of braking can produce fade because of the heat generated. This is because brakes used in this way don't always get enough time to cool between brake applications.
but my major concern is not autocrossing. I just mentioned that in responding to Richie. If you must know, my major concern is fade after multiple, repeated heavy slowing events in a downhill environment. This type of braking can produce fade because of the heat generated. This is because brakes used in this way don't always get enough time to cool between brake applications.
#26
Le Mans Master
I have yet to experience a Corvette that needed any more pad than the stockers for auto-x. Remember, the stock pads are designed for awesome initial bite (cold). Since most auto-x cars only run for 60-90 seconds at a time then get to cool off, the stock pads are fine. Now, if you have a car like Richie - which I've seen run 2-drivers at a time in back-to-back-to-back sessions - fade might start to come into play. But for 99% of the auto-x folks, give the stock pads a try and I think you'll be happy.
#27
Brakes for going slower, gears for going faster, and brake pads will always be cheaper than gearbox/engine fixes. An opinion shared by many.
Multiple hard stops without adequate cooling in between can lead to fade on all cars. Better pads can reduce/remove the fade.
This is not just a Corvette issue. Some racetracks, not auto-x, are notoriously hard on brakes and require improved pads, brake fluid and better brake cooling or some combination thereof.
#28
Race Director
Yeah, all my experience has been on C5, C5, C7. I do know from multiple friends that the C4 had severely inadequate brakes for auto-x. I know a few that have put C5 brakes on their C4 with excellent results.
#29
Race Director
That's fine for gradual downhills, Richie, but I am speaking of repeated hard braking necessary when chasing or being chased during "spirited" driving where driving speeds can vary greatly between fast straights and the turns that come at the end of those straights. There's no way that a gearbox should be used to slow a car this drastically. It merely abuses the gearbox, clutch and engine and can upset tire adhesion.
Brakes for going slower, gears for going faster, and brake pads will always be cheaper than gearbox/engine fixes. An opinion shared by many.
Multiple hard stops without adequate cooling in between can lead to fade on all cars. Better pads can reduce/remove the fade.
This is not just a Corvette issue. Some racetracks, not auto-x, are notoriously hard on brakes and require improved pads, brake fluid and better brake cooling or some combination thereof.
Brakes for going slower, gears for going faster, and brake pads will always be cheaper than gearbox/engine fixes. An opinion shared by many.
Multiple hard stops without adequate cooling in between can lead to fade on all cars. Better pads can reduce/remove the fade.
This is not just a Corvette issue. Some racetracks, not auto-x, are notoriously hard on brakes and require improved pads, brake fluid and better brake cooling or some combination thereof.
#30