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Old 09-05-2007, 12:15 AM   #1
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Is it OK to use graphite lubricant in a car's ignition cylinder? This is on my wife's '06 Vue. The key is a little stiff in the ignition cylinder. I know some of these have electronics inside, and it wouldn't be good to get graphite on the electronics. This key doesn't have a chip (that I can see, no contacts, etc.). So is it normal to lube a car's ignition cylinder with graphite? Am I going to cause more problems than I solve?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:18 AM   #2
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Do both keys stick?
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Do both keys stick?
All keys are "rough" going into the cylinder. I don't believe it is a worn key.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:21 AM   #4
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I've used it on a couple of old cars (i.e. 60's-70's) with no problems. I would think that as long as is doesn't have VATS or something similar that it would be okay.
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06, should be under warranty. I wouldnt put any graphite in it I'd just bring it back to the dealer. Or Costco...
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My key does that sometimes on my '07 Focus, I just give it a little wiggle and it pops right out. I think its just cause its newish.
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My key does that sometimes on my '07 Focus, I just give it a little wiggle and it pops right out. I think its just cause its newish.

Just so you know.....the Focus is notorious for ignition key problems, it requires an ignition key cylinder switch replacement. Newish is not the problem. Get it repaired now before you get stranded. I KNOW.
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pure graphite spray is fine for keys, don't use WD40 though.
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Just so you know.....the Focus is notorious for ignition key problems, it requires an ignition key cylinder switch replacement. Newish is not the problem. Get it repaired now before you get stranded. I KNOW.
At my old job we had an old Ford van and the key would stick all the time. The SSgt in the Ops section was the only one who new how to get the darn thing out, so it would stick and I'd park it at the shop and walk by his office and say "Damn key is stuck again" Next day the Key would magically be out of the ignition and all would be well.
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Is it OK to use graphite lubricant in a car's ignition cylinder? This is on my wife's '06 Vue. The key is a little stiff in the ignition cylinder. I know some of these have electronics inside, and it wouldn't be good to get graphite on the electronics. This key doesn't have a chip (that I can see, no contacts, etc.). So is it normal to lube a car's ignition cylinder with graphite? Am I going to cause more problems than I solve?
It's a known issue with this body style, there is a TSB on it for the Equinox so I imagine it would cross over also. Your supposed to pull the cylinder and lubricate the housing if memory serves, can't remember my password to Dealerworld or I'd post it for ya.
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Short term fix. Don't do it.
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Did you try deburring the keys on a wire wheel? Round over the sharp edges a hair and they should slide in easier...
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yes it can be used...
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Short term fix. Don't do it.
Seems that way to me too, but I've used dry graphite lube on door locks and it seemed to last years.

I may try minor key deburring, don't want to wear the key out though.

Is the cylinder lube used in the TSB just a standard dry graphite lube?

How difficult is it to remove a key cylinder?
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06, should be under warranty. I wouldnt put any graphite in it I'd just bring it back to the dealer. Or Costco...
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Seems that way to me too, but I've used dry graphite lube on door locks and it seemed to last years.

I may try minor key deburring, don't want to wear the key out though.

Is the cylinder lube used in the TSB just a standard dry graphite lube?

How difficult is it to remove a key cylinder?
Many vehicles today use magnetic recognition, and the graphite might screw that up.

It's under warranty take it in.

Pulling a key cylinder used to be easy, but as a theft deterrent it's much more complicated these days.

It's under warranty take it in.
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Many vehicles today use magnetic recognition, and the graphite might screw that up.

It's under warranty take it in.

Pulling a key cylinder used to be easy, but as a theft deterrent it's much more complicated these days.

It's under warranty take it in.
3yr/36k mile warranty, ~37k on the car.
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3yr/36k mile warranty, ~37k on the car.
Call the dealer and asl if they'd consider covering it. I know here 1k it wouldn't be an issue to cover it,especially with known problems.

PM me your email addy and I'll send you what I can TSB wise..probably wont be until tomorrow though. I'd try a new key first though.
As far as the grease..it's usually red and I have no clue whats in it.
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Graphite won't hurt a magnetic strip, but if the key has a pellet like our Corvette keys do or if there is any kind of electronics in the key, I would not use graphite!!! Graphite is a good conductor of electricity. Call a dealer and ask if graphite can be used on the lock cylinder.
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Call the dealer and asl if they'd consider covering it. I know here 1k it wouldn't be an issue to cover it,especially with known problems.

PM me your email addy and I'll send you what I can TSB wise..probably wont be until tomorrow though. I'd try a new key first though.
As far as the grease..it's usually red and I have no clue whats in it.
Thanks, will do.
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