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Old 05-16-2011, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default How much trisodium phosphate in a load of laundry?

The dishwasher detergent thread got me to buy a few cases of the commercial Cascade with phosphates and I'm amazed at the difference. So I set out looking for laundry detergent. Ancient Chinese secret my *** - I can't find one. So I'm mixing my own using TSP. The stuff I have is 7.3% elemental phosphorous content. I wasn't able to find much using Google - it ranged from a couple of tbsp to 1/2 c.
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TSP will remove crabs from a crack ***** if mixed with bleach and hot water.

That stuff is awesome!!

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Huh? This is one of those situation where a link to the original thread would help people understand that you are talking about. Sounds like something that I need to know.
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After reading about the lack of phosphates in dishwasher detergent I found a commercial janitorial supply house in my area that sells the "good stuff". They sell 50 lb. pales of both laundry detergent ($60.00) and 50lb. pales of dishwasher detergent ($40.00) Both products work much better than anything I've found in the stores as they both contain phosphates

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After reading about the lack of phosphates in dishwasher detergent I found a commercial janitorial supply house in my area that sells the "good stuff".
Really? In CA? They've banned the stuff in VA and I can't find it at all, not even for commercial use. What's the name/brand? Restockit has quite a few industrial detergents, but they don't specify if they are phosphate or phosphate-free. Doing a Google search for laundry detergent with phosphate brings up a bunch of anti-phosphate dirty hippie crap.
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TSP the answer to the militarise requirement to decontaminate equipment from nerve gas to radiation. Also used to disinfect cooking utensils in field dining facilities.

Good stuff until your clothes end up with white spots in your colored laundry items.

Your local paint store should have it in one pound boxes.
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FWIW the lake that is 200 yards down the road from my house had the world's 2nd largest bass (21+ lbs) caught out of it in 1984...

Now the lake is dead...phosphates, along with extra nitrogen killed it...

YMMV in your state...
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TSP the answer to the militarise requirement to decontaminate equipment from nerve gas to radiation. Also used to disinfect cooking utensils in field dining facilities.

Good stuff until your clothes end up with white spots in your colored laundry items.

Your local paint store should have it in one pound boxes.
Is TSP what they're using for NBC decon now? I remember STB being used. Nasty stuff but does the job.
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TSP the answer to the militarise requirement to decontaminate equipment from nerve gas to radiation. Also used to disinfect cooking utensils in field dining facilities.

Good stuff until your clothes end up with white spots in your colored laundry items.

Your local paint store should have it in one pound boxes.

Caveat emptor with those one pound boxes - what used to be labeled "TSP" at the big boxes ain't any more.

Look at the ingredients. No more phosphates.
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FWIW the lake that is 200 yards down the road from my house had the world's 2nd largest bass (21+ lbs) caught out of it in 1984...

Now the lake is dead...phosphates, along with extra nitrogen killed it...

YMMV in your state...
Lake Seminole?
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Used to use it on drilling rigs back in the 70's for breaking up clay on the drill bits. Got banned early 80's in CA. Saved us lots of money when we could use it.
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FWIW the lake that is 200 yards down the road from my house had the world's 2nd largest bass (21+ lbs) caught out of it in 1984...

Now the lake is dead...phosphates, along with extra nitrogen killed it...

YMMV in your state...
Interesting that you're in Florida, one of the states that banned phosphates.

Much of the USA's phosphates are mined in Florida. The soil there is rich in phosphates and most of the phosphates in your water come from natural sources or from mining.

That it was banned from detergent seems a little silly, since there's so much of it already there in nature.
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That it was banned from detergent seems a little silly, since there's so much of it already there in nature.
Like all dirty hippie shenanigans, the banning of phosphate in detergents hasn't done anything but punish the consumer. Water treatment facilities are equipped to deal with phosphate and treat for it before it goes back into the waterways.
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Really? In CA? They've banned the stuff in VA and I can't find it at all, not even for commercial use. What's the name/brand? Restockit has quite a few industrial detergents, but they don't specify if they are phosphate or phosphate-free. Doing a Google search for laundry detergent with phosphate brings up a bunch of anti-phosphate dirty hippie crap.
We have a septic tank so I'm only dumping the phosphates into the ground.
The products are from Luseaux Labs. http://www.luseaux.com/
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Like all dirty hippie shenanigans, the banning of phosphate in detergents hasn't done anything but punish the consumer. Water treatment facilities are equipped to deal with phosphate and treat for it before it goes back into the waterways.
What about people using septic systems instead of sewers? And, a lot of those people have to live right on lakes, the same lakes that all that extra phosphate hurts.
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We have a septic tank so I'm only dumping the phosphates into the ground.
The products are from Luseaux Labs. http://www.luseaux.com/
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What about people using septic systems instead of sewers? And, a lot of those people have to live right on lakes, the same lakes that all that extra phosphate hurts.
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Hope Dupont or someone moves down the river to some of you guys...
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Hope Dupont or someone moves down the river to some of you guys...
We'd be happy to trade PETA for Dupont.
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