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Old 12-29-2011, 12:42 AM   #1
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Default When did Will Hayden Sell "Red Jacket Firearms LLC" to Vince?

Was just reading their Wiki page and it says that Will is the founder, and FORMER owner of the shop, and that Vince is "Owner" and Charlie and Joe are co-owners.

When the hell did this happen? Most recent episode had Will treating Vince like a piece of old meat, not like his boss...lol

In fact it doesnt even list Will as anything other than the founder. His kid is the office manager, and vince is the shop manager.

Will Hayden Founder (Former Owner)
Stephanie Hayden Office Manager (Will's daughter)
Vince Buckles Lead Gunsmith/Shop Manager/Owner
Kris Ford Shop Apprentice/Builder
Joe Meaux Gunsmith/Technical Expert/Business Manager/Webmaster/Co-Owner
Charlie Watson Forensic Firearms Expert/Consultant/Marketing Manager/Co-Owner
Glenn "Flem" Fleming Shop Welder/Gunsmith
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:44 AM   #2
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:45 AM   #3
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You're late to the party Red.

Cliffs:

Will messed up
Will lost ffl
Vince "bought" Red Jacket
Vince quit Red Jacket
Vince started new place
Two unknowns "own" Red Jacket now.

I guess actually they own the ffl that Red Jacket operates under.
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It had something to do with some ATF issues that Will and his daughter had ... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ses-their-ffl/
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Wow, damn! Kinda sucks, you can tell he loved the business, we found out tonight that Red Jacket is Will's Native American name, thats kinda personal.

But when you lose 10 full auto guns...you got to pay the price. Sucks the people so passionate about guns totally took one in the nads like this, but it is what it is.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:22 AM   #6
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Wow, damn! Kinda sucks, you can tell he loved the business, we found out tonight that Red Jacket is Will's Native American name, thats kinda personal.

But when you lose 10 full auto guns...you got to pay the price. Sucks the people so passionate about guns totally took one in the nads like this, but it is what it is.
Well, if you look at the timelines on all of this, most of it happened before the show really took off, so every episode where he acted as the owner, really was for TV.

He probably is not the "owner" on paper, its not hard to incorporate and find a business partner who will let him run the shop and take a big paycheck for it ...
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I found some documents online, looks like the most recent paperwork was in April of this year, then again a couple months ago...hmmm

Really hurts that all this time, him and his goofy daughter were acting all bossy, and they were really working for Vince...hahaha
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I found some documents online, looks like the most recent paperwork was in April of this year, then again a couple months ago...hmmm

Really hurts that all this time, him and his goofy daughter were acting all bossy, and they were really working for Vince...hahaha
I'm sure he is still the boss. On paper he is not but he's the one that built the shop and I'm sure pays the bills. He probably sold it to Vince for $1 to make the government happy.
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Vince does all the work anyway ,he might as well own it.

I you can dream it,Vince can build it.
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I follow vinces face book
Real nice guy
And yes he starting his own thing
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Wow, damn! Kinda sucks, you can tell he loved the business, we found out tonight that Red Jacket is Will's Native American name, thats kinda personal.

But when you lose 10 full auto guns...you got to pay the price. Sucks the people so passionate about guns totally took one in the nads like this, but it is what it is.
Unless your a big Fed in the justice department!
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Unless your a big Fed in the justice department!
I bet there will be a price to pay. Holder is barely holding on his position at the moment.
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Unless your a big Fed in the justice department!
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I bet there will be a price to pay. Holder is barely holding on his position at the moment.
I highly doubt it. The peons will (and have) take the fall. Hell, they even promoted people that had direct knowledge. Holder will come out totally unscathed.
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