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Old 07-26-2013, 07:13 PM   #1
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Story Simplified

Guy 1 - Intoxicated off duty law enforcement with concealed pistol.

Guy 2 - Intoxicated regular guy + coke + marijuana

Guy 3 - Really intoxicated guy

All three guys go into a McDs at 2:30 in the am after a night of drinking/ partying.

Guy 1 has food and is at table, Guy 2 is waiting for food at counter, Guy 3 walks up to order food.

Guy 2 starts verbally harrassing Guy 3 but then Guy 2 sits down 2 tables away from Guy 3 and continues verbally harrassing him.

Guy 1 gets up from his table and approaches Guy 2 telling him to knock it off and identifies himself as off duty LE with pistol.

Guy 2 after 2 minutes of listening to Guy 1 proceeds to scuffle with Guy 1.

Guy 1 shoots Guy 2 killing him.

What should happen to Guy 1?

Just goes to show there isn't anything good going on at 2:30am in my opinion.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:17 PM   #2
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Guy #1 on chalkboard 50 times " I will not shoot guy two or guy three while off duty in McDonalds"
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:22 PM   #3
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Guy #1 on chalkboard 50 times " I will not shoot guy two or guy three while off duty in McDonalds"
And what has this type of punishment done for Bart Simpson??????
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:53 PM   #4
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Deedy should be tried for manslaughter not murder 2.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:06 PM   #5
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I wish our McDonalds was open at 2:30 in the morning.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:10 PM   #6
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Story Simplified

Guy 1 - Intoxicated off duty law enforcement with concealed pistol.

Guy 2 - Intoxicated regular guy + coke + marijuana

Guy 3 - Really intoxicated guy

All three guys go into a McDs at 2:30 in the am after a night of drinking/ partying.

Guy 1 has food and is at table, Guy 2 is waiting for food at counter, Guy 3 walks up to order food.

Guy 2 starts verbally harrassing Guy 3 but then Guy 2 sits down 2 tables away from Guy 3 and continues verbally harrassing him.

Guy 1 gets up from his table and approaches Guy 2 telling him to knock it off and identifies himself as off duty LE with pistol.

Guy 2 after 2 minutes of listening to Guy 1 proceeds to scuffle with Guy 1.

Guy 1 shoots Guy 2 killing him.

What should happen to Guy 1?

Just goes to show there isn't anything good going on at 2:30am in my opinion.

Any Girls?
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:27 PM   #7
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Guy 1 should no longer be allowed to be a LEO and have his right to bare arms revoked. He should also be tried for manslaughter.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:29 PM   #8
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All depends on the state and surrounding circumstances.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:29 PM   #9
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You don't shoot people that are scuffling with you since your life is not in danger. By now the officer should be facing charges and they very well could be murder. That is what I would charge him with.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:31 PM   #10
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Story is skewed, as in not complete.

More to the Deedy story than indicated above.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:33 PM   #11
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Guy 1 should no longer be allowed to be a LEO and have his right to bare arms revoked.
Guess he will have to wear a long sleeve shirt from now on.

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You don't shoot people that are scuffling with you since your life is not in danger. By now the officer should be facing charges and they very well could be murder. That is what I would charge him with.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:42 PM   #12
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I guess I'm the minority here. I took "Scuffling" to be something more serious than pushing an shoving. Around these parts, you say there was a "scuffle" when one or more of them need medical attention. Anything less, we call "Yappin"! "They were yappin at each other..."

So, if he identified himself, I'd say it pretty much sucks to be guy #2. We around here call that a DDT. (don't do that).

Charges? Failure to finish your big mac in time to avoid hazardous situations...
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:45 PM   #13
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I keep four levels in my car. A 5 iron which doubles sometimes as a cane to fake em out, large can of pepper (I love da Peppah) one of those mini baseball bats that are like 50 beats a minute and a 9mm.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:48 PM   #14
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I keep four levels in my car. A 5 iron which doubles sometimes as a cane to fake em out, large can of pepper (I love da Peppah) one of those mini baseball bats that are like 50 beats a minute and a 9mm.
No Tazer? They stop the action without a coroner needed.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:51 PM   #15
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Guess he will have to wear a long sleeve shirt from now on.
Damn! Hate it when I see something like that, keep scrolling down, and just when I think nobody else caught it...bam! You beat me to it!
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:44 PM   #16
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Vetteman Jack grammar nazied somebody!
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:11 PM   #17
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this is true story,,guy1 is a fed agent,and it happened in hawaii
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For those interested, google Kollin Elderts (deceased) and Christopher Deedy (shooter) and Hawaii or Honolulu. Lots of he said/she said. Lots of conflicting things of what happened between the people there.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/2...er-deedy-trial

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/2...-in-deedy-case

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/slideshow?widgetid=84417
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:25 PM   #19
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Story is skewed, as in not complete.

More to the Deedy story than indicated above.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:32 PM   #20
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If the decedents name was Trayvon then the guy should have listened to the police and never gotten out of his truck.
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