starchedup

NOPE. But mainly that's cause I'm not attracted to BIG GIRLS. LOL Nothing wrong with em... like mopeds.... Fun to ride but I don't want my friends to see me on one

thegame

Serious question about the GTR performance. I understand the awd makes it a monster from a dig. What I don't understand is how it seems to defy the power to weight ratio. For example

2014 GTR are commonly seen trapping around 125mph through the quarter mile.

2014 GTR ... 3825lbs and 540 horsepower = 7.08 power to weight.

2014 camaro ZL1... 4120 and 580 horsepower = 7.103 power to weight.

The camaro usually traps around 117-119 mph so how is the GTR trapping so much higher with such a close power to weight ratio?

Btw I love both cars. This just interest me.

PDCjonny

You haven't been here long, but that's one heck of an ignorant post.
Nice start!

Mr turbo rotary

Is that you Maya Angelou?

02HREBlue

For one--DCT allows it to have extreme efficiency of power in every gear for optimal acceleration.

02HREBlue

You would need a bench seat for the big girls. Back in high school I would open the door for the girl and then go around to get in. I would say "get on your own side" and they would respond that they were on their own side. Thats how you know you need smaller girls and bucket seats.

starchedup

LOL

sjohnson2615

I understand the point you are trying to make but your standard answer is not entirely correct.
Much of the profits remain here and are invested in more facilities and improvements and updates on existing facilities.
As a stockholder for any of the Japanese companies you are allowed to live wherever you choose,so if you live in this country,the profits stay in this country.
A Japanese person or company can buy Ford stock and some of the profits will go to Japan. Are you against that also?
The companies are becoming global and the old way of thinking just does not apply like it used to.

starchedup

Understood but I'm fundamentally against it. I don't like the trade deficit. Fundamentally unfair.

Crabbers

My ZR1 begs to differ.

Don't get me wrong, I love European exotics, but I'll line mine up against any of those any day.

White Out

Exotics DGAF about Corvettes pulling alongside trying to race.

ALLANB

GTR is pretty cool car. I don't find them ugly they kind of grew on me and would rather maybe say they look interesting. I have not driven one but am pretty sure they would be impressive . They are pretty much the Japanese version of my 911 turbo. All wheel drive and twin turbo is going to be a wicked combination off the line . Very hard to touch an all wheel drive car off the line. They can usually pull as good a 60ft on street tires as a rear wheel drive can pull on drag tires. And this helps still quite a bit at the end of the 1/4 mile a good 60ft is important ask any drag racer.

And they are improving the GTR all time as the model goes thru its life cycle. I think the old ones rode pretty badly but would think the new ones ride quite a bit better.
Still that said if was going to be spending 100k would rather have the z06. And yes agree the z06 is better looking car . Rear wheel drive is still ok and while don't think anyway to hook up 650 hp/650 tq on street tires at lower speeds or off the line still will be a fun car to have. And plan to get one in next couple of years. But not paying new price for the z06 either. I like to let depreciation work its magic.

I should go take a GTR for a test drive should be interesting. Sometimes people cut down a car without ever having driven them.

Crabbers

I didn't mean for a race, I just meant as a comparison. Like a "line-up". At what point did I say for a race? you're too quick to assume.

GZire

F1 powertrains are not rebuilt after every race FIA mandates "X" units/components per year. Figure one set is good for about 4 race weekends.

.........but yeah not an apples to apples comparison, not by a long shot.

LS1LT1

No, I'm not kidding at all. I also at NO POINT implied that a C7 LT1 would beat a 458 in a straight line, perhaps you need to go back and read/comprehend my post a little better.
In fact, I was actually quite clear in stating that in private hands a 458, like the 'slow' C7 ETs posted above, would likely also run quicker than most posted magazine times as well.

But if YOU think a 458 is a FULL 1.2 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile than an automatic C7 LT1 is (as his magazine ETs posted above might suggest) then YOU must be kidding as well.
The gap is barely even half that (same drag strip/same driver/same day).
From a highway roll, yes, the 458 wins every time. Though the 7 speed C7 LT1 likely wouldn't be that far behind either.







1) We don't know how quick the new Z06 is yet so any speculation is, well, mere speculation.
But do keep in mind that the quickest recorded ET for a bone stock C6 ZR1 is 10.6@132+mph (and 10.2@135+mph with just a rear wheel/tire swap). The somewhat heavier C7 Z06 will have 12hp/46tq more AND be available in an 'easier to launch' automatic.
How quick do YOU think it will run?

2) Since YOU brought them up...I know what the new McLaren and Aventador are capable of (VERY quick/fast), but I sure hope you can present some solid evidence of a stock 458T/460T running quicker than a 10.6 because my guess is that a stock C7 Z06 will certainly do just that in private hands.

White Out

I read "line up" as racing since it's a common term associated with racing. So my bad.

Crabbers

Not a problem, I could have been more clear anyways. Glad we cleared that up!