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Old 10-02-2014, 03:14 PM
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Default New Charger Hellcat faster than expected

Wow. This car just keeps getting better.

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/charger...183052913.html

And supposedly not tested at full throttle.
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Old 10-02-2014, 09:16 PM
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It may or may not be faster but in my opinion still a badass car for $60 grand.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:07 AM
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American engineering at its best (and that's coming from a Canuck)

Don't know why some folks get all worked up over Mopar vs Bowtie vs Ford, in the end they're all tremendous engineering achievements that we should be proud of.

20 years ago, back when K cars were still roaming around, and the mighty Z34 Lumina had 160 hp, if someone said one day there will be 700+ hp family sedans and a super agile Chevy SS that can move with the best of what Germany can offer, you'd die laughing.
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I would take either the Charger or Challenger Hellicat over the C7. 707hp from 6.2L is amazing.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by oicw
American engineering at its best (and that's coming from a Canuck)

Don't know why some folks get all worked up over Mopar vs Bowtie vs Ford, in the end they're all tremendous engineering achievements that we should be proud of.

20 years ago, back when K cars were still roaming around, and the mighty Z34 Lumina had 160 hp, if someone said one day there will be 700+ hp family sedans and a super agile Chevy SS that can move with the best of what Germany can offer, you'd die laughing.
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Old 10-07-2014, 09:09 PM
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At roughly 540 rwhp give or take and 4400+ lbs there's no way its going faster, not unless Dodge figured out some other magic trick. The 10.7 was obviously not on stock tires, had a fantastic driver, and optimal conditions.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PHPD7102
At roughly 540 rwhp give or take and 4400+ lbs there's no way its going faster, not unless Dodge figured out some other magic trick. The 10.7 was obviously not on stock tires, had a fantastic driver, and optimal conditions.
Except it has 707hp, so that is about 6.5 lbs per HP. A stock Vette is around 7.5 lbs per HP.

Yes, 10.7 was not on stock tires per torque news.

but a new video clip from the automaker reveals that when fitted drag radial tires, the world’s most powerful sedan can run the quarter mile in just 10.7 seconds while moving out from 0-60 in just 2.9 seconds. - See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/torque....5JfL5Md3.dpuf

Still a 4400 lb SEDAN doing an 11 quarter on stock tires is quite impressive. A $75-80k CTS V can't achieve that and runs out of gas a lot quicker.
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Old 10-08-2014, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by phileaglesfan
Except it has 707hp, so that is about 6.5 lbs per HP. A stock Vette is around 7.5 lbs per HP.

Yes, 10.7 was not on stock tires per torque news.

but a new video clip from the automaker reveals that when fitted drag radial tires, the world’s most powerful sedan can run the quarter mile in just 10.7 seconds while moving out from 0-60 in just 2.9 seconds. - See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/torque....5JfL5Md3.dpuf

Still a 4400 lb SEDAN doing an 11 quarter on stock tires is quite impressive. A $75-80k CTS V can't achieve that and runs out of gas a lot quicker.
Its 707 at the motor, I hit the wrong key on my first post thats what happens when you fast 2 finger type. Unless they tuned the hell out of it at the factory its not making more than 585/590 ish at the wheels.

My ZR1 is 770 at the motor 670 RWHP fairly conservatively tuned 13 pounds of boost.

I can run mid 10's on Pilots and a good driver in my car can probably go 9.8 or .7 on drag radials. My car weighs over 1000 lbs less than that Challenger.

Either I am missing something here or the numbers just aren't adding up.
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Old 12-10-2014, 02:50 PM
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Default Stock Z06s could do 10.7 back in 2006...


Put on a SC and your in the 8s...


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Originally Posted by PHPD7102
Its 707 at the motor, I hit the wrong key on my first post thats what happens when you fast 2 finger type. Unless they tuned the hell out of it at the factory its not making more than 585/590 ish at the wheels.

My ZR1 is 770 at the motor 670 RWHP fairly conservatively tuned 13 pounds of boost.

I can run mid 10's on Pilots and a good driver in my car can probably go 9.8 or .7 on drag radials. My car weighs over 1000 lbs less than that Challenger.

Either I am missing something here or the numbers just aren't adding up.
A stock Hellcat Challenger dyno'd 670 at the wheels. Granted that was just one incident one one dyno, but I think you'll see mid 600's to be pretty common.
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You're another one of those fools comparing a Corvette to a Challenger aka Apples to Oranges. Two totally different cars. You're also showing a Corvette being driven by an individual who has thousands of passes down the quarter mile under his belt. And then you are stretching the comparison even further by showing a highly modified Corvette in the second video.
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I hate magazine racing but these are more realistic #'s of what they will run with a 6 speed that were done by Car and Driver.

Basically about the same as a stock C6 Z06.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...al-test-review

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Old 12-12-2014, 02:58 PM
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The manual Hellcat will do the very same thing, but you’ll be exacting a double-downshift yourself. Good luck. The gearshift lever is canted nicely toward you, but pushing and pulling it through the gates feels like doing reps on an old Nautilus machine. The clutch demands the leg strength of a baby elephant. Invite your high-school football coach to ride shotgun and scream in your face, “Feel the burn!” and you’ll feel 17 again.
I think the Dodge boys at Chrysler had better learn some lessons from the Corvette and Camaro boys at Chevrolet. A clutch that stiff is inexcusable.
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Ya, 10.7 is amazing but I looked up the DA at the track that day.
I picked 1:05 pm for the run time and the DA was -1764 Ft Below sea-level.
It would be a whole lot slower if he ran that car in the summer.
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Originally Posted by JJS04
You're another one of those fools comparing a Corvette to a Challenger aka Apples to Oranges. Two totally different cars. You're also showing a Corvette being driven by an individual who has thousands of passes down the quarter mile under his belt. And then you are stretching the comparison even further by showing a highly modified Corvette in the second video.
Don't forget that those runs were run on the best prepped track, best da, and in the cold winter, those "Hero runs" cannot be reproduced anywhere else.
All the hero runs At the same specially prepped track rental, in mineshaft winter air.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
I think the Dodge boys at Chrysler had better learn some lessons from the Corvette and Camaro boys at Chevrolet. A clutch that stiff is inexcusable.
Maybe the chevy boys should learn some lessons about intercooling supercharged cars from dodge.
Every car has its good traits and bad traits, I also have no doubt that the person who said everything was stiff etc... Was exaggerating a tad.

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[QUOTE=PHPD7102;1587994373]At roughly 540 rwhp give or take and 4400+ lbs there's no way its going faster, not unless Dodge figured out some other magic trick. The 10.7 was obviously not on stock tires, had a fantastic driver, and optimal conditions.

http://youtu.be/_DDJlPu7Dak

Copy and paste the above to see a 10.94 at 124.73 charger hellcat run

Don't know how to make the link work by just clicking on it
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[QUOTE=Senecagreen;1588507401]
Originally Posted by PHPD7102
At roughly 540 rwhp give or take and 4400+ lbs there's no way its going faster, not unless Dodge figured out some other magic trick. The 10.7 was obviously not on stock tires, had a fantastic driver, and optimal conditions.

http://youtu.be/_DDJlPu7Dak

Copy and paste the above to see a 10.94 at 124.73 charger hellcat run

Don't know how to make the link work by just clicking on it
Not a Hellcat.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:17 AM
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The Dodges with the 707HP Hellcat engines are tremendous cars. Dodge certainly got it right here.
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Originally Posted by GenerationX1
I hate magazine racing but these are more realistic #'s of what they will run with a 6 speed that were done by Car and Driver.

Basically about the same as a stock C6 Z06.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...al-test-review
Pretty crazy that the manual is over 2 seconds slower to 150 than the auto hellcat.
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