No longer in love with the C7 Z06...
11-08-2014, 06:48 PM
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I just got back from the Miami Car show and was originally very excited about placing an order for a 2016 C7 Z06 when the 2016 order guide is released. Now, this is in doubt because I really looked closely at the Z06 on the platform today. I can't get over the appearance that there are so many things just appear tacked on rather than being integrated into the overall design. The plastic fender extensions, the front splitter and rear spoiler, the side vents all look like afterthoughts that were just added on rather than designed in from the start. The base C7 had a cleaner look to me. The killer for me was that there were 2 cars there that really sparked more excitement. The Camaro Z28 with those monster 305 tires all around, and the new Mustang which was absolutely gorgeous.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balanced feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balanced feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
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11-08-2014, 07:08 PM
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Melting Slicks
I just got back from the Miami Car show and was originally very excited about placing an order for a 2016 C7 Z06 when the 2016 order guide is released. Now, this is in doubt because I really looked closely at the Z06 on the platform today. I can't get over the appearance that there are so many things just appear tacked on rather than being integrated into the overall design. The plastic fender extensions, the front splitter and rear spoiler, the side vents all look like afterthoughts that were just added on rather than designed in from the start. The base C7 had a cleaner look to me. The killer for me was that there were 2 cars there that really sparked more excitement. The Camaro Z28 with those monster 305 tires all around, and the new Mustang which was absolutely gorgeous.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
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11-08-2014, 07:26 PM
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Melting Slicks
2 words... See ya. you seem to overlook something about the Vette that neither the Camaro or Mustang have, it stands out from the crowd. Actually, why anyone would try to compare the Mustang is well beyond me.
The true fact is that the Vette has always had, and still has, a certain thing about it that people turn their heads for... It is like that with very few cars IMO but this improved tenfold with this new Z06. Plastic parts my ***....we have seen tons of piks. This car is stunning And it is the closest thing to a true race car that you will find in a production middle...IMO.
The true fact is that the Vette has always had, and still has, a certain thing about it that people turn their heads for... It is like that with very few cars IMO but this improved tenfold with this new Z06. Plastic parts my ***....we have seen tons of piks. This car is stunning And it is the closest thing to a true race car that you will find in a production middle...IMO.
11-08-2014, 07:27 PM
#6
They have a 'all black Camaro'...and I mean all black....LT7 engine, the works.....it is mean looking....if I was a younger guy that would be the way to go.......but
Just me and the wife with a lot of traveling to do......it's Corvette for us!
There are so many options out there.....so you post your switching....I guess you need to be on the forum of what you buy....
We here love our cars......and your post should be somewhere else...but glad your here.....and have fun!!!
Just me and the wife with a lot of traveling to do......it's Corvette for us!
There are so many options out there.....so you post your switching....I guess you need to be on the forum of what you buy....
We here love our cars......and your post should be somewhere else...but glad your here.....and have fun!!!
11-08-2014, 07:29 PM
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I just got back from the Miami Car show and was originally very excited about placing an order for a 2016 C7 Z06 when the 2016 order guide is released. Now, this is in doubt because I really looked closely at the Z06 on the platform today. I can't get over the appearance that there are so many things just appear tacked on rather than being integrated into the overall design. The plastic fender extensions, the front splitter and rear spoiler, the side vents all look like afterthoughts that were just added on rather than designed in from the start. The base C7 had a cleaner look to me. The killer for me was that there were 2 cars there that really sparked more excitement. The Camaro Z28 with those monster 305 tires all around, and the new Mustang which was absolutely gorgeous.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
11-08-2014, 07:34 PM
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I just got back from the Miami Car show and was originally very excited about placing an order for a 2016 C7 Z06 when the 2016 order guide is released. Now, this is in doubt because I really looked closely at the Z06 on the platform today. I can't get over the appearance that there are so many things just appear tacked on rather than being integrated into the overall design. The plastic fender extensions, the front splitter and rear spoiler, the side vents all look like afterthoughts that were just added on rather than designed in from the start. The base C7 had a cleaner look to me. The killer for me was that there were 2 cars there that really sparked more excitement. The Camaro Z28 with those monster 305 tires all around, and the new Mustang which was absolutely gorgeous.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
I consider myself a car enthusiast, Corvette guy, and track addict, having owned Corvettes for 27 of the last 30 years and have never before considered buying a Ford product. I am eagerly awaiting the 11/17 release of the GT350 with its 600hp normally aspirated 5.2 liter motor and track setup. I assume it will be Ford's answer to the Camaro Z28, which just beat out the 911 Turbo S to win Motor Trend Driver's Car of the Year. Everything I read about the Z28 says it is an amazingly balance feat of engineering, and it looked very impressive seeing it in person.
Now I'm back to square one although I think I am leaning toward the GT350 but that really depends on what it turns out to be in 9 days. All I can say is the sound bytes from the spy videos from the Nurburgring sound unbelievable. The Z06 is an incredible package for the money, but so are the other two, and the lines and aesthetics of the Mustang (GT was at the show) are light years better than ever before.
Since I won't be purchasing anything for about 9 months, I have time to really see them in person and hear owners' feedback. I feel like a kid in a candy store with all the options of dual purpose street/track cars under $100K that will be readily available. And then there's the Viper sitting in the back of the room too.
It truly is a great time to be a car guy for sure...I must say though for the first time since 05 with the introduction of the S197 Mustang I can not take to this new Mustang the front end just don't look right but looks are very subjective..good luck with your decision in time!!....
11-08-2014, 07:50 PM
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Melting Slicks
Hey man...To each his own so Im going to give my own...
That Mustang was as plain Jane as anything I ever saw...The Camaro is a beast. That Z is absolutely beautiful. Tacked on stuff? Really man? Oh well, you have to get what you feel good about. If its the Mustang or Camaro...Go out and get it! But if you do and a Z rolls up next to you...Well you know the deal! LOL!
Good luck!
That Mustang was as plain Jane as anything I ever saw...The Camaro is a beast. That Z is absolutely beautiful. Tacked on stuff? Really man? Oh well, you have to get what you feel good about. If its the Mustang or Camaro...Go out and get it! But if you do and a Z rolls up next to you...Well you know the deal! LOL!
Good luck!
11-08-2014, 07:54 PM
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I saw a Z28 in person this summer at the Car Craft Nats. We were all blown away. Stunning.
But at the end of the day....it ain't a Corvette.
But at the end of the day....it ain't a Corvette.
11-08-2014, 07:55 PM
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I somewhat agree with some of what the OP says. That is why I am going with the stage one aero. I love the lines of the C7. I had a 2014 and now driving a 2015 until I get my Z06. I don't however care for the full aero package. Just looks a little to "ricer" for me. Don't flame him too much.
11-08-2014, 07:55 PM
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Personally I agree with OP. The only thing I really love about the appearance of the new Z is the larger rear fenders and tires. The rest of the stuff isn't going to age well IMO. I can't stand the clear tail lights either.
The Camaro still does nothing for me. Looks like a brick. The Mustangs have all looked pretty similar to me since they went retro. Good looking, but similar.
The Camaro still does nothing for me. Looks like a brick. The Mustangs have all looked pretty similar to me since they went retro. Good looking, but similar.
11-08-2014, 08:26 PM
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Le Mans Master
Looks are subjective. The Mustang is just fugly. I like Camaros, had a 3rd gen and 4th gen, the Z/28 is gorgeous, but the interior is a big letdown, as expected. Do you intend to use the car as a track car only?
11-08-2014, 08:31 PM
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Le Mans Master
I saw a Z06/Z07 convertible at SEMA. I wasn't blown away by the looks. The Z28 certainly has that "tacked on" look also. I haven't seen a GT350, but the new Mustang looks good, but I losing a bit of excitement for it, too, now that I've seen it a number of times.
I think it would be hard to beat how the Z06 will drive, though. It's lower to the ground than the Mustang, and it's lighter, so right there it has a big advantage.
Michael
I think it would be hard to beat how the Z06 will drive, though. It's lower to the ground than the Mustang, and it's lighter, so right there it has a big advantage.
Michael
11-08-2014, 08:54 PM
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I somewhat agree with some of what the OP says. That is why I am going with the stage one aero. I love the lines of the C7. I had a 2014 and now driving a 2015 until I get my Z06. I don't however care for the full aero package. Just looks a little to "ricer" for me. Don't flame him too much.
I agree the full aero pkg does look a bit to ricer to me also I will be going with the stage one pkg.
11-08-2014, 08:54 PM
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I agree with the OP however, as a 650HP track car, it's fine by me. Some GT-Rs trims "suffer" of the same. Of course, it makes them wicked fast. In terms of Mustang, I'm generally not a fan; I saw a black one with dark wheels and it looked way better in person. Camaros need a refresh...
11-08-2014, 09:00 PM
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I'm not going to flame the OP. I agree there are some great choices out there when it comes to cool, fun, fast cars. It's a good time to be a car guy.
The new Z certainly doesn't integrate its pieces as well as say a 458 or F12. It's one of the reasons I chose NRB - in order to blend some of that in a bit better (that, and for some dumbass reason they dropped CG).
The Camaro is ready for a re-fresh, but offers variants that are beastly. I'm torn on the Mustang. At times I think the new rear end works. At other angles, I'm not so sure. I'm certain the front end doesn't work - at least for me. I'm actually a bit disappointed by it.
One thing the new Z will have, in addition to generally great styling overall, will be glorious, PD huffer-induced low end torque, which is a blast to drive.
The new Z certainly doesn't integrate its pieces as well as say a 458 or F12. It's one of the reasons I chose NRB - in order to blend some of that in a bit better (that, and for some dumbass reason they dropped CG).
The Camaro is ready for a re-fresh, but offers variants that are beastly. I'm torn on the Mustang. At times I think the new rear end works. At other angles, I'm not so sure. I'm certain the front end doesn't work - at least for me. I'm actually a bit disappointed by it.
One thing the new Z will have, in addition to generally great styling overall, will be glorious, PD huffer-induced low end torque, which is a blast to drive.
11-08-2014, 09:11 PM
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Hey to each his own, but he lost me when using those other cars in the same sentence as a Corvette!
Corvette is like a bottle of Dom compared to a bottle of Korbel when compared to those cars. Not knocking them but different league of cars! Even if they came with 1,000 HP.
But hey buy what you like or in many instances, what you can afford.
Corvette is like a bottle of Dom compared to a bottle of Korbel when compared to those cars. Not knocking them but different league of cars! Even if they came with 1,000 HP.
But hey buy what you like or in many instances, what you can afford.
11-08-2014, 09:18 PM
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It aint a Corvette? No kidding? What is it with the belief on this forum that if it doesn't have cross flags that it's not worth a damn? For Christs sake, the Corvette is not the "end all" for performance car enthusiasts. Believe it or not, there are actually people out there that prefer a Camaro, or M3 or Porsche to a Corvette anything. I've been a Corvette fan since I've been 3 years old, and I've owned 6 Corvettes. But I feel sorry for you guys that own nothing but Corvettes and think it's the only performance car worth owning.
11-08-2014, 09:24 PM
#20
I agree with the OP with everything except the Z28 looks wise. See those fender extensions? Those stick out to me like a sore thumb. Obv they have their purpose, but they ruin the look of the side of the car for me. Taked on. And the interior of the 5th gen Camaro is a non starter. I dont care what kind of car you have, that interior is unacceptable. My advice to OP, wait for the unveiling of the 6th gen Camaro. That is going to be my next purchase. Then a Z06 later on when they hit low to mid $40k in 2018-2019.
To everyone else, who says the new Mustang is "fugly"...that is one gorgeous car. Im sorry yall need to take the Corvette blinders off. Ford hit a home run with that design and the new GT350 is going to be a killer car when it arrives. Gotta give credit where credit is due right? Even on a Vette forum...
To everyone else, who says the new Mustang is "fugly"...that is one gorgeous car. Im sorry yall need to take the Corvette blinders off. Ford hit a home run with that design and the new GT350 is going to be a killer car when it arrives. Gotta give credit where credit is due right? Even on a Vette forum...