camirocz

I hope this time they build a car thats fast for at least three back to back runs.You guys make me laugh saying how fast it will be when the c7 z06 still can beat an older c6 version.

DerStig

This is pretty impressive. I wonder if it can also get AWD. If it did, nothing would stop this car, it would destroy the competition in its segment.

DerStig

That's actually true.

What's interesting is though, GM used "we don't have the space to put the dual clutch transmission" in C7, but I wonder why they won't do it in the Cadillac?

Zentraedi

The weight is impressive, thats a full 430lbs lighter than the charger hellcat and ~200 less than the E63 & M5. We praised the speed of C7Z06 before its release, wont do the same here. I just hope the A8 doesn't have two overdrive gears, will wait for the results.

All the DCT talk regarding the space issues are just excuses. They can develop something that fits, it requires a lot of money which they did not want to dish out at the time. They are probably slowly developing one and have been for sometime.

DerStig

Wow, that is impressive! If it's 200 lbs lighter than my M5 and makes 65hp more, this thing is going to trap 124! Holy crap!

Snorman

But, but...the CTS-V was supposed to be getting a twin-turbo. The same engine that's going in the future ZR1.
S.

BOBSZ06

They won't do it because the have the superior A8!

dvandentop

fail on no manual tranny option being optioned. i got the last 2 v generations but will be bypassing this one.

looks like ats-v will be for the more serious car enthusiast then this by offering a manual

still has a small *** fuel tank will require fill ups around every 250 miles which was another big pain on the v2

Poor-sha

I agree. No manual no buy. Looks like the ATS-V will be the one when I'm ready for another 4 seater.

Also note that they don't say LT4 anywhere so I would expect them to do something like they did with the LSA where it was slightly detuned and with slightly lesser components.

phantasms

Exactly. That press release confirmed my already solid suspicions of no "ZR1".

Skullbussa

You really think GM isn't going to have a C7 ZR1? You do understand the life cycle of this generation is supposed to extend into AT LEAST 2018, right?

The Z06 is not going to be the big dog Corvette of this generation.

ZL-1

The drag of the level 3 aero pieces reduces the top speed of Z07 models. It was reported somewhere that the cleaner base C7 Z06 is capable of 195 mph but now I can't find it. The wide tires don't help aero either. If they were to offer the LT4 in the cleaner Stingray body with no spoiler it would blow all 4 doors off that Caddy

Unreal

But considering the lt4 is already no forged pistons, no fancy TI parts, etc I bet it is just the tune, or the intake/exhaust requirements, or they just did it on purpose to keep power a little lower than the vette. Wouldn't surprise me if the actual motor was identical, and just some of the bolt on parts like exhaust manifolds or intake are different and the reason for 10 less hp.

NICK YOSKIN

GM.....AWD please. All it will do is smoke tires unless on a prepped surface.

ZR1Cat

I would tend to agree with your thinking. I recall the 1967 Impala getting a 427 that was identical to the vette's base 427. But, instead of the Impala version was rated at 385hp instead of the vette's 390hp...supposedly because the exhaust was different and more restrictive on the Impala. I think GM did not want the same HP rating on the Impala as the vette. Yeah, I know that was a long time ago, but I still think GM wants the vette to have the highest rated HP engines.

Denstoy968

Imagine if the CTS-V pulled on the C7Z on highway roll! It could happen 😜

sunsalem

Here is a MotorTrend article about the car:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._v_first_look/


One of the secrets to keeping costs down on Vettes.
Besides, every big Manufacturer does this now.


This.


"Downforce" and "drag" are two different things.

Downforce is the amount of force pushing a car down onto the driving surface (squishing it, if you will).
This improves grip and cornering stability and speeds thru turns.

Drag is the amount of "slippery-ness" the vehicle has while moving thru air.
In other words, the resistance of the car to moving thru the atmosphere.


The 300 lb. weight difference will be interesting to see.

sunsalem

Don't understand why anyone would want a manual in a Caddy, but whatever....


LOL, seems like I am always on the way to or from a gas station in my Coupe.


No way any GM vehicle is going to have more power than the top-of-line Corvette.
I think it's written in granite somewhere....

Huh???
Plenty of guys have modded the current gen of Vs to extremely high power numbers.

QUIKAG

I've always loved RWD and still do, but sitting at a light this past weekend in my '12 CTS-V daily driver and nailing the gas from the stop, the rear tires spun, T/C kicked in, it fell on it's face for a half-second and then took off, managing power. After that, I was thinking about how fun it would be to have one of the new AWD E63 Benz's cars. Twin turbo V8, 577hp or so, AWD for under 3.5 rocket launches from the light, every single time.

In short, I wouldn't mind an AWD V for a daily driver. I'll keep my weekend/track day Vette as RWD though, thank you very much.

QUIKAG

No crap. I've said it a hundred times and I'll still bet anyone a thousand bucks that GM WILL have a superior model to the Z06 during the C7 lifecycle. It's all but a guarantee.

However, very few people thought the CTS-V would get anything other than a slightly detuned derivative of the LT4. The twin turbo V8 mill will go in a flagship Cadillac in a few years and it may POSSIBLY be offered as an engine upgrade in the V3 mid-cycle as a Super V or some other weird naming convention. That said 640hp is more than sufficient for a CTS-V when it's competition is still in the mid to upper 500 range.