C7 Z06 vs Motorcycle
#41
Melting Slicks
Nitrous hit...that's another story. I'm actually scared to hit the nitrous on anything but a roll so I don't know how fast it is in the 1/4 on the juice yet.
Sure there's cars out there that can put out that kind of number...but the odds of actually running across one are between slim and none. And there is always the bottle for those
#42
That'd be a well over 1,000 horse car that weighs like say ZO6 weight or less to catch my bike without a hit from a bottle to catch me from a dig, or even anything where the race starts at say 60 for that matter.
Nitrous hit...that's another story. I'm actually scared to hit the nitrous on anything but a roll so I don't know how fast it is in the 1/4 on the juice yet.
Sure there's cars out there that can put out that kind of number...but the odds of actually running across one are between slim and none. And there is always the bottle for those
Nitrous hit...that's another story. I'm actually scared to hit the nitrous on anything but a roll so I don't know how fast it is in the 1/4 on the juice yet.
Sure there's cars out there that can put out that kind of number...but the odds of actually running across one are between slim and none. And there is always the bottle for those
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
Last edited by vtknight; 01-19-2015 at 12:44 AM.
#43
Le Mans Master
He was probably shocked that you though he was actually racing , sorry, your blown z06 is going to get left badly by a stock busa or ZX-14
#44
Le Mans Master
Lol - I will have to disagree with you.
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
For all you know the 425hp busa had 240 hp, what underground doesn't post are the fully build(motor , trans etc, that are dialed in on each gear ensuring optimal amounts of boost at all times) RCC turbo bikes(such as mine) that trap over 200mph in the 1/4 and run in the mid to low 7's , and this is on a michelin power one tire, not a drag slick.
#45
Le Mans Master
Lol - I will have to disagree with you.
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
#46
Team Owner
Was searching youtube for C7 Z videos and found this. Wow, the Z06 guy can drive!
C7 Z06 vs Motorcycle - YouTube
C7 Z06 vs Motorcycle - YouTube
stock. Pretty sure it takes a Z06 to a 100.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 01-19-2015 at 04:50 AM.
#47
If you don't know a bike configuration that can beat that, just call richard at RCC turbo, or frank at powerhouse racing, my list is to long and to the tune of over 40k, there are 80- 100 k builds out there, people don't understand that bike builds can be just as expensive as car builds.
#48
Melting Slicks
Lol - I will have to disagree with you.
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
I have personally raced a ZX-14R at a mile event with my car which only had 1000 awhp at the time. This event is from a dig - which I did not use launch control. My car weighs about 4000 lbs with me in it and fuel.
As to you just needing a bottle to beat over 1000 WHP cars - that is also very inaccurate.
As I stated - and I use GTR mods as an example as I am most familiar with it; an Alpha 12 GTR will give you about 1200-1250 awhp and a mid 8 at 162-165 MPH on average.
The bigger builds - 1600+ awhp will get you low 8's at 175+ MPH on average. 210-215 MPH in the half mile.
The ultra builds like the UGR Lambo I posted beating a 425 WHP turbo Busa - was 1800+ awhp - and there are now UGR cars with 2000-2300 awhp - and some GTRs with 2000+ that trap well into the 180-185 MPH+ range as well as over 225 MPH in the half mile.
I don't know of a bike configuration that could challenge that.
That said - I do agree that these cars are few and far between. As would be any bike that could even think of challenging these cars...
INSANE 425HP Turbo Hayabusa battles 1750HP Lamborghini Underground Racing - YouTube
By the way I doubt that busa is actually 425 hp. More like a stock busa with a tune.
A 425hp bike isn't going to be touched by anything short of a Prostock Drag Car, period.
There aren't alot of 1k + vehicles out there.
I've seen guys take my personal ZX and run mid 8s. (they're lighter than me, and are better riders to boot and was before I put the juice in) If I ditched about 50lbs (they weigh 140 to 150ish) I'd pick up a couple tenths just from that alone. The fastest stock motor ZX right now the last I checked is 8.4 seconds.
Look at what it takes you to get there in a car.....against a Stock motor ZX.
That's not with any nitrous on the ZX, any reworking of the engine, or even pipes. Like I said, good luck against a modern liter and a half bike, from a dig.
Sure if you start the race at like 120 or something you have a shot at it, then again maybe not. Because anyone that's willing to start a roll race at 120 has defeated the electronic top speed governor and probably had some minor work done, making it a 250mph bike.
Point is, in the real world, it's not going to matter what you bring against a bike, you better expect to lose, and lose big. Cars are considered bad bad bad fast running high 10s stock in the 1/4 these days.
A bike rider just looks at that and says "oh 10s, how cute". Even the 1000s (400ccs less) run 9s. High Tens is more like a modern 600.
Mods work both ways man. A real 450hp bike isn't going to be touched by any car, that isn't hauled around on a trailer, and raced by big money race teams in NHRA. That vid is bupkiss at best.
Last edited by MavsAK; 01-19-2015 at 09:20 AM.
#49
Team Owner
Hrm, word on the street was the bikes that lost to the Mambo were stock-ish. 375 HP Busa where I used to race had a street tire and was clipping off 8.0X without much issue. Another 50 HP would be faster.
#50
Melting Slicks
Lets put all this in perspective.
7.19 I doubt he's thumping out 450hp
Like I said, good luck beating bikes
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Last edited by MavsAK; 01-19-2015 at 09:26 AM.
#51
Le Mans Master
Fun videos so far to check out.
Here's one of my ride going against a 2007ish CBR1000RR. Most of the runs were dead even from highway speeds. The only run on video was the last run as we were catching traffic. Vette gets the jump and it was game over. Even starts the run was dead even.
Fun run. Most of the times you're beating the rider and not the bike. Regardless, they're really freakin quick.
Car in video is a centri blown C6
Here's one of my ride going against a 2007ish CBR1000RR. Most of the runs were dead even from highway speeds. The only run on video was the last run as we were catching traffic. Vette gets the jump and it was game over. Even starts the run was dead even.
Fun run. Most of the times you're beating the rider and not the bike. Regardless, they're really freakin quick.
Car in video is a centri blown C6
#52
Burning Brakes
That'd be a well over 1,000 horse car that weighs like say ZO6 weight or less to catch my bike without a hit from a bottle to catch me from a dig, or even anything where the race starts at say 60 for that matter.
Nitrous hit...that's another story. I'm actually scared to hit the nitrous on anything but a roll so I don't know how fast it is in the 1/4 on the juice yet.
Sure there's cars out there that can put out that kind of number...but the odds of actually running across one are between slim and none. And there is always the bottle for those
Nitrous hit...that's another story. I'm actually scared to hit the nitrous on anything but a roll so I don't know how fast it is in the 1/4 on the juice yet.
Sure there's cars out there that can put out that kind of number...but the odds of actually running across one are between slim and none. And there is always the bottle for those
Bottom line.... There will always be someone faster.
#53
Thanks for the nice words 😉. I don't know much of anything about bikes, though I do have a lot of respect for the guys that ride them. It does take a lot of skills to drive them properly and safely, well as safely as possible. It was a good, fun, clean run. I don't know what kind of bike it was, we just came up on him and he wanted to run, thus we did! At the end of the day, a thumbs up from the driver and everything ended safely, so it was a good day. I always look forward to meeting other motor enthusiast that enjoy a little adrenaline rush, no matter what their cup of tea is.
#54
There's plenty of bikes out there running 7s, on street tires, that are fairly tame mod wise.
By the way I doubt that busa is actually 425 hp. More like a stock busa with a tune.
A 425hp bike isn't going to be touched by anything short of a Prostock Drag Car, period.
There aren't alot of 1k + vehicles out there.
I've seen guys take my personal ZX and run mid 8s. (they're lighter than me, and are better riders to boot and was before I put the juice in) If I ditched about 50lbs (they weigh 140 to 150ish) I'd pick up a couple tenths just from that alone. The fastest stock motor ZX right now the last I checked is 8.4 seconds.
Look at what it takes you to get there in a car.....against a Stock motor ZX.
That's not with any nitrous on the ZX, any reworking of the engine, or even pipes. Like I said, good luck against a modern liter and a half bike, from a dig.
Sure if you start the race at like 120 or something you have a shot at it, then again maybe not. Because anyone that's willing to start a roll race at 120 has defeated the electronic top speed governor and probably had some minor work done, making it a 250mph bike.
Point is, in the real world, it's not going to matter what you bring against a bike, you better expect to lose, and lose big. Cars are considered bad bad bad fast running high 10s stock in the 1/4 these days.
A bike rider just looks at that and says "oh 10s, how cute". Even the 1000s (400ccs less) run 9s. High Tens is more like a modern 600.
Mods work both ways man. A real 450hp bike isn't going to be touched by any car, that isn't hauled around on a trailer, and raced by big money race teams in NHRA. That vid is bupkiss at best.
By the way I doubt that busa is actually 425 hp. More like a stock busa with a tune.
A 425hp bike isn't going to be touched by anything short of a Prostock Drag Car, period.
There aren't alot of 1k + vehicles out there.
I've seen guys take my personal ZX and run mid 8s. (they're lighter than me, and are better riders to boot and was before I put the juice in) If I ditched about 50lbs (they weigh 140 to 150ish) I'd pick up a couple tenths just from that alone. The fastest stock motor ZX right now the last I checked is 8.4 seconds.
Look at what it takes you to get there in a car.....against a Stock motor ZX.
That's not with any nitrous on the ZX, any reworking of the engine, or even pipes. Like I said, good luck against a modern liter and a half bike, from a dig.
Sure if you start the race at like 120 or something you have a shot at it, then again maybe not. Because anyone that's willing to start a roll race at 120 has defeated the electronic top speed governor and probably had some minor work done, making it a 250mph bike.
Point is, in the real world, it's not going to matter what you bring against a bike, you better expect to lose, and lose big. Cars are considered bad bad bad fast running high 10s stock in the 1/4 these days.
A bike rider just looks at that and says "oh 10s, how cute". Even the 1000s (400ccs less) run 9s. High Tens is more like a modern 600.
Mods work both ways man. A real 450hp bike isn't going to be touched by any car, that isn't hauled around on a trailer, and raced by big money race teams in NHRA. That vid is bupkiss at best.
I think it's fair to say many of you have not been in cars that produce over 1800+ awhp - the 80-160 MPH in 5 seconds video tipped me off to that. (Did you WATCH the video I posted? It shows the bikes speedo lol).
#55
If you don't know a bike configuration that can beat that, just call richard at RCC turbo, or frank at powerhouse racing, my list is to long and to the tune of over 40k, there are 80- 100 k builds out there, people don't understand that bike builds can be just as expensive as car builds.
This bike ran 60-130 MPH in 2.7 with a 1.6% decline - on PUMP gas.
Like I said - watch the video...
#56
Thanks vtknight for posting that.
Fellas, that UGR 2R LP560 is mine, and the owner of the Busa is a very good friend. Possibly the most humble guy I know. His bike is built by Rick's Custom Cycle. It put down 375 whp on 93 and 425 whp on C16. He ran a verified 100-150 in 2.7 secs on 93. It's an absolute monster and it held on to my tail until about 160 when I started to pull away. There is not much stopping the Lambos on the big end on the street. I am not sure if any of you have experienced 1800 whp, but let me tell you, it's something even I, one of the biggest HP junkies out there, don't want to experience again without a G suite. It's mind twisting!
Anyways, just thought I'd chime in and correct the misinformed.
Fellas, that UGR 2R LP560 is mine, and the owner of the Busa is a very good friend. Possibly the most humble guy I know. His bike is built by Rick's Custom Cycle. It put down 375 whp on 93 and 425 whp on C16. He ran a verified 100-150 in 2.7 secs on 93. It's an absolute monster and it held on to my tail until about 160 when I started to pull away. There is not much stopping the Lambos on the big end on the street. I am not sure if any of you have experienced 1800 whp, but let me tell you, it's something even I, one of the biggest HP junkies out there, don't want to experience again without a G suite. It's mind twisting!
Anyways, just thought I'd chime in and correct the misinformed.
Last edited by Zlicious; 01-19-2015 at 08:00 PM.