thegame

How come that stingray doesn't say Z51? Does anyone know if it was??

themonk

Edmunds journalist or not, it was the same driver, same track, I'm pretty sure they didn't make up these times.

Like I said, it was for that day on that track....different drivers are going to post different times, this is no means an exact science. Maybe a week later someone else drove the Stringray and posted a faster time, who knows. I'm just posting what I read.

ck9887

It was Randy Pobst who posted times for both cars at Laguna Seca. He is much more qualified to push a car to it's limits on the track than any edmunds journalist.

themonk

I'm not saying he couldn't beat the time, what I'm saying is that the same driver on the same day posted those times, it could've been 10 minutes for all I care it's the fact that the Stingray was close to the Viper and beat the rest of the field including a GT-R.....who drove it is inconsequential.

ck9887

You are right. But keep in mind, the stingray is probably much easier to extract more of it potential out of than the Viper. It takes a very good driver to post a good lap time in a Viper. Which is why you see a much wider spread between the cars when you have a competent race car driver like Pobst behind the wheel....

themonk

makes sense.....

Snake Plissken

Like said above, Vette is way easier to drive hard and reach limits sooner, Viper limits are way higher and can be pushed extremely hard which is why 99% of "journalist" that are used to driving Accords and trucks never get good times out of it b/c it scares the **** out of them, but they can get great times with say the Stingray for example as their comfortable pushing it. But with equal drivers, or at least a competent one in the Snake, nothing against the Ray as I've driven a friends on track, but it'll be decimation for it.

Gen V is much easier to drive and reach limits though then before, and its so smooth and razor sharp.... however those limits and speeds its capable of are still extremely high on a road course. I always picture journalist driving the Viper going like 80% throttle coming into a corner and just crapping their pants and slowing way down, when the car could be at 100% and smoothly braked and turned into and powered out as easy as a fat kid raiding a candy store, or even through a couple esses..... but that speed and grip is beyond some drivers limits

themonk

once again that makes total sense but you'd think that a superior track car would bring fourth more confidence in people's driving, skilled or unskilled after all, isn't that what a good car should do, bring out the best in people?

Hirohawa

Journalists test a car for a couple of days - an enthusiast buying a car will spend exponentially more time getting faster and taming the beast at the track. At Buttonwillow one of the instructors had a Viper and he could sling that sucker around the track like a Miata.

I think that is part of the fun and challenge of having a higher horsepower car. If you can't get any more out of the performance after a couple of days I would get bored and move onto something else.

Callsign_Vega

Eh? Sports cars should be about emotion, creating skill and be entertaining. Who wants a car you just hop in, reach it's max potential quickly and then your done? Sounds very boring.

themonk

so, are you talking about a road car that's good on a track or a track car that's good on the road? The Stingray is FIRST AND FOREMOST A ROAD CAR that happens to perform well on the track. The engineer's first job was to make the Stingray a car, a people transport, not a race car. You can't sit there and tell me that the Z51 does not require skill to push it too it's limits. The Stingray is such a good car that it doesn't require you to be a Randy Probst to have fun in it, it can get you out of trouble if you need it to or it can let you do what you want, that's the beauty of this car, if can be forgiving or it can be a bitch, your choice and it can also be a great cross county tourer, there's not too many cars out there today that can be both.

NytmereZ

This thread is about Track times of a Nismo GTR vs Z06 corvette, I know people like to talk about how great their own car is, but the Stingray or its "cross county capability" really has nothing to do with this topic at all, and really is way out of its league in a test like this...sorry

NytmereZ

Very true, but this doesn't apply to waxers.

themonk

I really don't GAF what the thread topic is to be perfectly blunt, you don't know me very well but minute things like thread topics mean very little to me. You can break this thread down to a C7 vs GT-R in which case I posted a video showing a Stingray beating a GT-R around a track driven by the same person, skilled or not. I'm sure you've been here long enough to know that rarely a thread topic stays on track to the thread fruition.

No offence, that's just who I am.