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Old 07-27-2015, 12:45 AM
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As it stands today, the Z06 could not keep up at the track with the ACR due to the overheating issues. Dodge knows this and will play a marketing theme with it and that is why the CEO made those statements. They were not random statements. They were directed at the Z06, the competitor of the ACR. What the Vette has is brand loyalty and longevity. The Viper doesn't have the same brand loyalty and longevity.

GM made the claim that the Z06 is a "track ready car" and claims "located at the intersection of Le Mans and the Autobahn" and
GM's website compares the C7.R with the Z06.

Sadly when it came to real-word results the Z06 failed at the track when it was run hard. GM needs to call in the engineers and figure out how to keep it from overheating. Not that difficult to do but it must be done.

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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
I seem to recall either reading or hearing from video review that 2016 ACR tops out around 170 mph which sounds credible with a ton of downforce.
True. Top speed is 175mph and over 2,000 lbs of downforce is being applied
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Old 07-27-2015, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Why are you concerned 5 shades of yellow?
Let us see a shot
Here's my car you show us yours!

I think it looks good all 1 shade of gray.
Car is silver so you must have skipped your eye appointment.
Take the same pic in the sun next time. Still have not said why the lower panel on the right rear fender is lighter than the upper part?
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Originally Posted by ViewSonic
As it stands today, the Z06 could not keep up at the track with the ACR due to the overheating issues. Dodge knows this and will play a marketing theme with it and that is why the CEO made those statements. They were not random statements. They were directed at the Z06, the competitor of the ACR. What the Vette has is brand loyalty and longevity. The Viper doesn't have the same brand loyalty and longevity.

GM made the claim that the Z06 is a "track ready car" and claims "located at the intersection of Le Mans and the Autobahn" and
GM's website compares the C7.R with the Z06.

Sadly when it came to real-word results the Z06 failed at the track when it was run hard. GM needs to call in the engineers and figure out how to keep it from overheating. Not that difficult to do but it must be done.
even if the Z06 didn't overheat, it still wouldn't keep up. The ACR is on the next level of performance, I don't think GM has ever made something alike, the ZR1 was a step in the right direction, the new Z07 is certainly yet another step there, but it's still not at the ACR level, period.
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Originally Posted by v jet
Mock away! I would rather have a overheating track car to worry about vs a $105,000,000 fine. http://abcnews.go.com/US/chrysler-fi...ry?id=32700227
yes because GM was so flawless with the ignition switch debacle that killed over a dozen of consumer…mock away indeed
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Why are you concerned 5 shades of yellow?
Let us see a shot
Here's my car you show us yours!

I think it looks good all 1 shade of gray.
Car is silver so you must have skipped your eye appointment.


Sam's car looks fine to me tbh...
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:24 AM
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Guys as a general rule CEO's are full of $hitt so pay no attention to the remarks.
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Originally Posted by NWbluez06
I think GM will respond.... I wonder if I could take control and lap one of those "new" Viper ACR's... from my computer you know what they say about people that live in glass houses!

Its All good we are just going to get better and better cars... Got to love competition:salute:
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Originally Posted by ViewSonic
As it stands today, the Z06 could not keep up at the track with the ACR due to the overheating issues. Dodge knows this and will play a marketing theme with it and that is why the CEO made those statements. They were not random statements. They were directed at the Z06, the competitor of the ACR. What the Vette has is brand loyalty and longevity. The Viper doesn't have the same brand loyalty and longevity.

GM made the claim that the Z06 is a "track ready car" and claims "located at the intersection of Le Mans and the Autobahn" and
GM's website compares the C7.R with the Z06.

Sadly when it came to real-word results the Z06 failed at the track when it was run hard. GM needs to call in the engineers and figure out how to keep it from overheating. Not that difficult to do but it must be done.
O don't know why thy did not us the 427 again , Using the motor
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Originally Posted by ViewSonic
The interior for 2016 was all redone. It looks really high-class and high-tech. Very supercar like interior.

Initial testing shows that it will outperform the Z06 on the track.
It should with the amount of down force it has. The 747 rear wing is just a monster. Anyways, comparing the two is sort of useless as the Z06 is more a street car vs the ACR that is more the track car.

The Z06 looks great all day long while the ACR looks too riced out for the street but perfect on the track. GM would have to come up with something "sort of" along these lines to be as fast or faster.


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Old 07-27-2015, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave


Awesome vid...for anyone going to the tracks this is the ultimate track car.....
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Love both of them, different strokes for different folks… but that V10 sounds effing amazing.
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Originally Posted by four0nefive

Sam's car looks fine to me tbh...
Thanks and yes it is fine. He is just trying to feel better about his unacceptable paint job.
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Originally Posted by v jet
Mock away! I would rather have a overheating track car to worry about vs a $105,000,000 fine. http://abcnews.go.com/US/chrysler-fi...ry?id=32700227

You're going there ?
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/12/auto...ths/index.html
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Originally Posted by v10enomous


I wasn't aware of this...Damn that's nasty chit GM should be made to pay for this or at least someone at GM who knew about this issue with their cars...boy did Mrs Bara deflect those questions..not good IMO.
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It's a bit of a dig at GM, but even if the Z didn't overheat, there wouldn't be much competition from it. The ACR is definitely a monster, and is going to be a much faster track car than the Z07.
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Originally Posted by schaibaa
1.5g will be a good amount faster than the Z06 - I wonder how those tires compare to cup 2's. Really cool car but as others have said, the Z06 is a solid 8 or better in every category. The Viper is clearly purpose built.
Comments like this always make me laugh a bit. It's almost like people aren't aware that the car has changed from the original Viper of the 90s. I prefer the interior and comfort level of the Gen V Vipers to the C7. Yes that's subjective, but saying that it's just a track car is doing it a disservice. It is built for the track, but that doesn't mean it sucks everywhere else. It's actually a great all around car as well. With all that being said, if you are getting one for a daily, you're probably going to skip the ACR and get a GTS or TA, but you can DD an ACR no problem.


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Originally Posted by Varmit
and how many of those vipers have been sold
The only sold 29 Porsche 918s last month. I guess it must suck eh?

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Originally Posted by Crabbers
Comments like this always make me laugh a bit. It's almost like people aren't aware that the car has changed from the original Viper of the 90s. I prefer the interior and comfort level of the Gen V Vipers to the C7. Yes that's subjective, but saying that it's just a track car is doing it a disservice. It is built for the track, but that doesn't mean it sucks everywhere else. It's actually a great all around car as well. With all that being said, if you are getting one for a daily, you're probably going to skip the ACR and get a GTS or TA, but you can DD an ACR no problem.


+1

People just regurgitate the same things over and over about the Viper journalists have been saying since the raw originals came out in the early 90s. It's just lazy, uninformed opinions.
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Originally Posted by Zerski
The only sold 29 Porsche 918s last month. I guess it must suck eh?

How many unsold 918s are sitting on showrooms?

How many unsold 2014 or 2015 Vipers are sitting on the showroom?

Big difference. Dodge would sell more Vipers if they could why do you think they had to cut the price to move some? The 918 is not even on the same supply and demand chart as a Viper, which is on the same chart as the Vette.
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