This is why I don't go to the track
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#6
But you bought a performance track-able car to tote groceries and go to Church? Guys some people just want to LOOK cool. You a Show-er, not a Go-er. Too many people drive over their heads, and create this situation. It's the loose nut behind the wheel that is usually the problem. If a wreck stops you from enjoying your car on the track, it's mainly because you have no confidence in your ability on the track, or your ability to go slow and enjoy the track. No body makes you go fast, it's your own damn fault. Self control, is important in EVERYTHING you do.
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Going to the track does not guarantee you or your car will not be hurt.
What it guarantees (should) you will not hurt another car or person who are not willingly participating in an activity that can damage both cars and persons
This is in addition to doing it it legally and not having to worry about hurting any innocent persons who because of some idiot were at the right place but at the wrong time
What it guarantees (should) you will not hurt another car or person who are not willingly participating in an activity that can damage both cars and persons
This is in addition to doing it it legally and not having to worry about hurting any innocent persons who because of some idiot were at the right place but at the wrong time
#9
This is why I don't go to the track?
You typically have instructors with the novices and there are flags and point-by rules to abide by... and if you don't focus on your driving lines or push beyond your skill level or simply pretend to be Juan Pablo Montoya when you're clearly not, then it's no one else but your own dang fault to blame.
Good HPDE track organizers will also enforce rules and monitor skill levels... safety is always first. Accidents can/will happen but there's more risk to have a major mishap on public roads than on the road course, IMO.
I have a friend with a C7 who said the same thing about hpde's.... ignorant mentality is all I can think of.
But you bought a performance track-able car to tote groceries and go to Church? Guys some people just want to LOOK cool. You a Show-er, not a Go-er. Too many people drive over their heads, and create this situation. It's the loose nut behind the wheel that is usually the problem. If a wreck stops you from enjoying your car on the track, it's mainly because you have no confidence in your ability on the track, or your ability to go slow and enjoy the track. No body makes you go fast, it's your own damn fault. Self control, is important in EVERYTHING you do.
So OP, ask yourself again when you see an accident in the street or highway... and then say to yourself... "This is why I don't drive on public roads!"
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#11
Burning Brakes
If you can't afford to wad it up and walk away, don't track it. Only a fool thinks it's impossible to destroy a car. That said, I've been running DE with Apex Driving Academy for over 12 yrs and never any car-car contact and at most damaged cones. Track driving can be very safe and I've had precious little damage doing it for many years.
IMO having a car like the Z06 and using it only on the street means you are wasting a huge part of the performance envelope. Like dating Kate Beckinsale but she never wears less than a bikini (getting past that is dangerous, too!)
IMO having a car like the Z06 and using it only on the street means you are wasting a huge part of the performance envelope. Like dating Kate Beckinsale but she never wears less than a bikini (getting past that is dangerous, too!)
#12
This is why you let the car go off track in a straight line instead of trying to correct an uncorrectable error.
I have video at Sonoma in the Z06 coming in too hot (or so I believed) at the end of the main straight. I always choose an agricultural excursion over "sideways in the dirt". It doesn't look as dramatic as sliding sideways, but it is a lot safer. Going into turn one at Thunderhill is another weed-whacking opportunity for the cautious driver who prefers driving home in a shiny, smooth car.
I have video at Sonoma in the Z06 coming in too hot (or so I believed) at the end of the main straight. I always choose an agricultural excursion over "sideways in the dirt". It doesn't look as dramatic as sliding sideways, but it is a lot safer. Going into turn one at Thunderhill is another weed-whacking opportunity for the cautious driver who prefers driving home in a shiny, smooth car.
#13
Safety Car
You pay your money and take your chances, racing has always been that way.
Too bad, it was probably someones daily transportation out for some fun that ended badly.
Too bad, it was probably someones daily transportation out for some fun that ended badly.
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The Audi driver commented on his errors which by the way are common errors made on tracks, streets and highways all around the world. He entered the turn incorrectly (the same mistake is made on public roads), then he compounded the problem by making another mistake of trying to pull the car back on the pavement (the same mistake is made on public roads). The difference here is the driver didn't have any trees or other obstructions to hit as he went off the track on either side. A lot of times when the first mistake is made and the car goes off the highway there is no second mistake because the car is wrapped around an obstacle of some sort.
This video also points out something that a lot of people feel good about on tracks like this that seem to have a lot of run off room. They never think about the car tripping in the dirt and rolling. Sometimes it is better to have some guardrails to run into that channel you down the track, keep the car on the pavement and reduce the chance of it rolling over. Either way the car is totaled but it is probably better for the occupant if it doesn't roll over.
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This video also points out something that a lot of people feel good about on tracks like this that seem to have a lot of run off room. They never think about the car tripping in the dirt and rolling. Sometimes it is better to have some guardrails to run into that channel you down the track, keep the car on the pavement and reduce the chance of it rolling over. Either way the car is totaled but it is probably better for the occupant if it doesn't roll over.
Bill
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The Audi driver commented on his errors which by the way are common errors made on tracks, streets and highways all around the world. He entered the turn incorrectly (the same mistake is made on public roads), then he compounded the problem by making another mistake of trying to pull the car back on the pavement (the same mistake is made on public roads). The difference here is the driver didn't have any trees or other obstructions to hit as he went off the track on either side. A lot of times when the first mistake is made and the car goes off the highway there is no second mistake because the car is wrapped around an obstacle of some sort.
This video also points out something that a lot of people feel good about on tracks like this that seem to have a lot of run off room. They never think about the car tripping in the dirt and rolling. Sometimes it is better to have some guardrails to run into that channel you down the track, keep the car on the pavement and reduce the chance of it rolling over. Either way the car is totaled but it is probably better for the occupant if it doesn't roll over.
Bill
This video also points out something that a lot of people feel good about on tracks like this that seem to have a lot of run off room. They never think about the car tripping in the dirt and rolling. Sometimes it is better to have some guardrails to run into that channel you down the track, keep the car on the pavement and reduce the chance of it rolling over. Either way the car is totaled but it is probably better for the occupant if it doesn't roll over.
Bill
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Burning Brakes
This is why you let the car go off track in a straight line instead of trying to correct an uncorrectable error.
I have video at Sonoma in the Z06 coming in too hot (or so I believed) at the end of the main straight. I always choose an agricultural excursion over "sideways in the dirt". It doesn't look as dramatic as sliding sideways, but it is a lot safer. Going into turn one at Thunderhill is another weed-whacking opportunity for the cautious driver who prefers driving home in a shiny, smooth car.
I have video at Sonoma in the Z06 coming in too hot (or so I believed) at the end of the main straight. I always choose an agricultural excursion over "sideways in the dirt". It doesn't look as dramatic as sliding sideways, but it is a lot safer. Going into turn one at Thunderhill is another weed-whacking opportunity for the cautious driver who prefers driving home in a shiny, smooth car.
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Correct. That's the misnomer... but in fairness lots of naive ones don't realize nor understand that HPDE's is not and should not be a race. Sure as skills progress you try to go quicker lap per lap but there are rules and etiquette to abide by. There are no podium finishes and many times you can't even get repeated clean laps.
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But you bought a performance track-able car to tote groceries and go to Church? Guys some people just want to LOOK cool. You a Show-er, not a Go-er. Too many people drive over their heads, and create this situation. It's the loose nut behind the wheel that is usually the problem. If a wreck stops you from enjoying your car on the track, it's mainly because you have no confidence in your ability on the track, or your ability to go slow and enjoy the track. No body makes you go fast, it's your own damn fault. Self control, is important in EVERYTHING you do.
Going by what OP says, maybe i shouldn't go out tonight cause i may get hit by another car. What OP should have said is....I don't go to the track cause i'm old and can't drive. Don't want my blood pressure to skyrocket!