2017 LT4 ZL1 runs 7:29.60 at the Nurburgring
10-24-2016, 02:04 PM
#21
I'm not Michael Schumacher and neither are 99.9% of the drivers out there.
NO professional race cars series in the WORLD goes to the Ring to race.
http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/home.html
The Gen V ACR doesn't have a ring time, yet people keep calling it the fastest production track car in the world...but where's the ring time?
It would be very nice to see all 3 get Ring times, but I doubt it would improve sales.
10-24-2016, 03:39 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
10-24-2016, 04:35 PM
#24
Drifting
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It's a great lap for sure with fantastic car control.
What's interesting is that the A10 never really dropped the revs below 5500 rpm; in fact the engine spent almost the entire lap between 5500 and 6500 rpm. I love my Z06 and can drive it in 'M' mode and make it thru' an HPDE session that way, but my car driven in 'D' like this car was would overheat for sure. A perfect example of GM's stupid decision to place all three radiators in a 'sandwich' configuration at the front of the car. Luckily they got smarter on the new ZL1 and hopefully the 2018 ZR1 also; (or whatever it will be called).
Bish
What's interesting is that the A10 never really dropped the revs below 5500 rpm; in fact the engine spent almost the entire lap between 5500 and 6500 rpm. I love my Z06 and can drive it in 'M' mode and make it thru' an HPDE session that way, but my car driven in 'D' like this car was would overheat for sure. A perfect example of GM's stupid decision to place all three radiators in a 'sandwich' configuration at the front of the car. Luckily they got smarter on the new ZL1 and hopefully the 2018 ZR1 also; (or whatever it will be called).
Bish
10-24-2016, 04:56 PM
#25
Le Mans Master
As sort of a disinterested bystander (I didn't partake in the big 50 page threads) I've still got to assume the Z cannot finish that track. It must overheat and that's why we never got a time. Or the time was compromised so badly by it that they never released it.
Watching the video of the Camaro, on this particular track, and especially the last 1/3 of it, you spend so much time at full throttle above 5500rpm that I know my car -couldn't- do it, and I survive most road courses. But I wouldn't make it through this one without overheating.
Watching the video of the Camaro, on this particular track, and especially the last 1/3 of it, you spend so much time at full throttle above 5500rpm that I know my car -couldn't- do it, and I survive most road courses. But I wouldn't make it through this one without overheating.
10-24-2016, 05:03 PM
#26
Wow. I was breathless after watching that. Man, I knew I was a novice hack at the wheel compared to most Z06 owners but add "scared like a little kitten" to that as well. This guy was fearless!
10-24-2016, 05:09 PM
#27
Seemed like he was fighting the car a bit the whole way, even on teh straights he was making a lot of steering corrections. As a comparison watch a novice driver in a GT3 running a 7:33 in traffic:
10-24-2016, 05:29 PM
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I've told you conspiracy theorists time. And time. And time again. Team Corvette's run at the N'Ring with the Z06 was a kick-*** success in their eyes, but the mother company took the release of that info away from them! It's not their info to release any longer.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
10-24-2016, 05:36 PM
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I've told you conspiracy theorists time. And time. And time again. Team Corvette's run at the N'Ring with the Z06 was a kick-*** success in their eyes, but the mother company took the release of that info away from them! It's not their info to release any longer.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
That is far more the conspiracy theory than the obvious - which many owners on this page - including myself have stated; the car could not make it for an entire lap due to over heating issues. That GM admitted to. And created a number of fixes for.
So save your FFS for yourself. I'm supposed to take your word for it? I'm not one of your lemming Corvette fanboys. Come with a real response if you want us to stop.
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10-24-2016, 05:38 PM
#30
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I've told you conspiracy theorists time. And time. And time again. Team Corvette's run at the N'Ring with the Z06 was a kick-*** success in their eyes, but the mother company took the release of that info away from them! It's not their info to release any longer.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
They're all quite happy with the time. And quite frustrated they can't release it. But there you have it.
Now FFS: stop asking about it.
10-24-2016, 05:41 PM
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10-24-2016, 05:43 PM
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10-24-2016, 05:43 PM
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Think. Don't react. Think so hard you might hurt yourself doing so.
So save your FFS for yourself. I'm not one of your lemming Corvette fanboys. Come with a real response if you want us to stop.
10-24-2016, 05:50 PM
#34
Drifting
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Do you remember what was going on at the N'Ring right around the time that the Z06 ran it? Think about that, if you're capable of doing so rationally. Think it through, all of the potential implications, etc.
Think. Don't react. Think so hard you might hurt yourself doing so.
No, you're just a lemming Internet know-it-all. That doesn't actually know anything in this case, so you're filling in the blanks with incorrect information.
Think. Don't react. Think so hard you might hurt yourself doing so.
No, you're just a lemming Internet know-it-all. That doesn't actually know anything in this case, so you're filling in the blanks with incorrect information.
Like I said - save your nonsensical responses for your lemming fans. No internet needed. I own this car and have tested it at the track - and like for many (more than the nonsense 5%) - it overheats. GM went out of their way to spend untold amounts of money to change the supercharger lid and create a taller CF hood to fit it - for this "imaginary" problem. Oh and build an A10 trans. Because that is what GM does. Spend money, resources and time when it doesn't need to.
GM didn't even do that with the valve train issues of the C6 Z06.
So please stop with your know-it-all FFS like you have some sort of insider knowledge.
The C7 Z06 overheats. This is why there is no Nurburgring time.
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10-24-2016, 05:54 PM
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The C7 Z06 overheats. This is why there is no Nurburgring time.
Just know that you're wrong. Very wrong. On both counts.
10-24-2016, 06:01 PM
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Actually the hood is the exact same as the 15s and 16s. The only things that changed are the lid, the bricks (they are angled in the rear to provide better cooling to cylinders 7 and 8), and the hood liner (changed to accommodate the larger blower lid).
10-24-2016, 06:02 PM
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And here is the logical reason why your responses don't make sense;
GM just went to the Nurburgring with the ZL1. Why would they not go back with the C7 Z06? GM went several times with both the C6 Z06 and ZR1. It wasn't a one time affair.
So - there is your - they DO have a time - but it's been "taken away" from them for no reason whatsoever. TO the point they cannot even state what they did. PLUS they cannot go back and run another time for some unknown reason.
OR...
The C7 Z06 has an overheating problem that GM has themselves copped to - spent money, time and resources and people to fixing.
And this is why there is no NBR time.
10-24-2016, 06:03 PM
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Drifting
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This is so. Changing the liner is within the hood.
10-24-2016, 06:05 PM
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Let's review: Why do the GM engineering teams take cars, mechanics, and drivers to the N'Ring?
Answer that question before we can go further.
10-24-2016, 06:11 PM
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Addendum to the above - to back up all the Nurburgring marketing material they sent out and promoted.
Next question?
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