challenger Hellcat ADR reported running 9's STOCK
#41
Le Mans Master
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99% sure NOT AWD. Mopar is showing as of today an additional set of wheels ... skinnies...from the factory. So that's the regular factory drag radial fronts (yes..DR's at all 4 corners) and then a drag pack kit that includes skinnies...plus the tools,to swap them out at the track. No shiznit...
#43
Drifting
Oh not at all actually. I think its amazing that the HP wars are alive and well with the major manufacturers. I remember 10 years ago when everyone assumed we'd seen the last of the high hp factory stuff forever.
I love that car companies are willing to take the risk with this stuff.
I am wondering about the DOT legality of the car or even if its intended for street use at all? With the stripped airbags and the one seat, I'm assuming its going to be more along the lines of the COPO cars....
Bring Pro-Stock BACK to Pro-Stock!!!!
- Travis
I love that car companies are willing to take the risk with this stuff.
I am wondering about the DOT legality of the car or even if its intended for street use at all? With the stripped airbags and the one seat, I'm assuming its going to be more along the lines of the COPO cars....
Bring Pro-Stock BACK to Pro-Stock!!!!
- Travis
#44
Le Mans Master
Oh not at all actually. I think its amazing that the HP wars are alive and well with the major manufacturers. I remember 10 years ago when everyone assumed we'd seen the last of the high hp factory stuff forever.
I love that car companies are willing to take the risk with this stuff.
I am wondering about the DOT legality of the car or even if its intended for street use at all? With the stripped airbags and the one seat, I'm assuming its going to be more along the lines of the COPO cars....
Bring Pro-Stock BACK to Pro-Stock!!!!
- Travis
I love that car companies are willing to take the risk with this stuff.
I am wondering about the DOT legality of the car or even if its intended for street use at all? With the stripped airbags and the one seat, I'm assuming its going to be more along the lines of the COPO cars....
Bring Pro-Stock BACK to Pro-Stock!!!!
- Travis
Dodge already had the non streetable challenger, they wouldn't spend the big bucks that they are on PR for a car you can't drive on the street.
Last edited by NytmereZ; 02-06-2017 at 03:01 PM.
#47
Le Mans Master
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Lol...no. You have the OPTION to delete things. So of course it comes with all the seats but to the guy who is going to do nothing but race it, you can check the box for rear seat delete and another box for passenger seat delete etc. that is the understanding as of now and nothing final until they start rolling off the line. Official debut at NY Auto show April 12th with a select group getting pre-event passes for April 11th.
#48
Le Mans Master
Lol...no. You have the OPTION to delete things. So of course it comes with all the seats but to the guy who is going to do nothing but race it, you can check the box for rear seat delete and another box for passenger seat delete etc. that is the understanding as of now and nothing final until they start rolling off the line. Official debut at NY Auto show April 12th with a select group getting pre-event passes for April 11th.
#49
Le Mans Master
99% sure NOT AWD. Mopar is showing as of today an additional set of wheels ... skinnies...from the factory. So that's the regular factory drag radial fronts (yes..DR's at all 4 corners) and then a drag pack kit that includes skinnies...plus the tools,to swap them out at the track. No shiznit...
#50
Le Mans Master
#51
Scraping the splitter.
I think anybody expecting the Demon to be over 1000 hp is going to be extremely disappointed. There are myriad reasons why, the first of which that power level would require a completely re-engineering the engine. Everything from the head bolts to the crankshaft would be scrutinized and upgraded. The 8HP90 is rated for less than 700 ft.lb, so it would have virtually zero headroom without major changes. Let's not even get into cooling loads, fueling for 1000+ hp, etc.. Like Dodge is just going to throw a lower on it with some bolt-ons and race gas, lol.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
#52
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I will be shocked if it is at the 1000 hp mark for all the same reasons as you stated...however...that inside contact has been 100% on to date and no one would have ever believed 707 hp 3 years ago either...but time will tell pretty soon.
My best guess or opinion if you will is that the ADR option will be over 1000hp just based on the track record of that source but I suspect going with that option kills some if not all of the warranty. That part is pure speculation but the source has indicated without question that it is around 1000 hp in full form but that is pending durability testing. We'll see! I had one lined up ready to go on paper at my dealer where I got my Hellcat from but they renegg'd on the deal a few weeks ago so I am out of the running now. And I'm sure I won't be the first one screwed over by a greedy steelership on these cars....
My best guess or opinion if you will is that the ADR option will be over 1000hp just based on the track record of that source but I suspect going with that option kills some if not all of the warranty. That part is pure speculation but the source has indicated without question that it is around 1000 hp in full form but that is pending durability testing. We'll see! I had one lined up ready to go on paper at my dealer where I got my Hellcat from but they renegg'd on the deal a few weeks ago so I am out of the running now. And I'm sure I won't be the first one screwed over by a greedy steelership on these cars....
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Anyone who thinks the Demon is going to be close to 1000 HP is smoking crack. I am a BIG fan of these cars and Mopar (obviously) and let's hope it hits at least 800 horsepower (as 800HP would be awesome and is probably where the HP rating will come in at).
Last edited by Mopar Jimmy; 03-30-2017 at 12:42 AM.
#54
Le Mans Master
I think anybody expecting the Demon to be over 1000 hp is going to be extremely disappointed. There are myriad reasons why, the first of which that power level would require a completely re-engineering the engine. Everything from the head bolts to the crankshaft would be scrutinized and upgraded. The 8HP90 is rated for less than 700 ft.lb, so it would have virtually zero headroom without major changes. Let's not even get into cooling loads, fueling for 1000+ hp, etc.. Like Dodge is just going to throw a lower on it with some bolt-ons and race gas, lol.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
#55
Scraping the splitter.
I will be shocked if it is at the 1000 hp mark for all the same reasons as you stated...however...that inside contact has been 100% on to date and no one would have ever believed 707 hp 3 years ago either...but time will tell pretty soon.
My best guess or opinion if you will is that the ADR option will be over 1000hp just based on the track record of that source but I suspect going with that option kills some if not all of the warranty. That part is pure speculation but the source has indicated without question that it is around 1000 hp in full form but that is pending durability testing. We'll see! I had one lined up ready to go on paper at my dealer where I got my Hellcat from but they renegg'd on the deal a few weeks ago so I am out of the running now. And I'm sure I won't be the first one screwed over by a greedy steelership on these cars....
My best guess or opinion if you will is that the ADR option will be over 1000hp just based on the track record of that source but I suspect going with that option kills some if not all of the warranty. That part is pure speculation but the source has indicated without question that it is around 1000 hp in full form but that is pending durability testing. We'll see! I had one lined up ready to go on paper at my dealer where I got my Hellcat from but they renegg'd on the deal a few weeks ago so I am out of the running now. And I'm sure I won't be the first one screwed over by a greedy steelership on these cars....
But they'll be selling a car with a warranty, to the general public with the Demon. I think the ADR would be a completely different car.
1000 hp would need race car sh** to stay in one piece.
I also don't think Dodge would be playing around with these little gimmicks and tricks in a car that's going to be making 1000 hp. An AC-cooled intercooler tank is cool (and the same tech from the "Killer Chiller" that's been out for 10-12 years), but that extra power wouldn't be needed if the car was truly going to be rated at over 1000 hp.
S.
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I think anybody expecting the Demon to be over 1000 hp is going to be extremely disappointed. There are myriad reasons why, the first of which that power level would require a completely re-engineering the engine. Everything from the head bolts to the crankshaft would be scrutinized and upgraded. The 8HP90 is rated for less than 700 ft.lb, so it would have virtually zero headroom without major changes. Let's not even get into cooling loads, fueling for 1000+ hp, etc.. Like Dodge is just going to throw a lower on it with some bolt-ons and race gas, lol.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
I've read all the rumors started on Hellcat.org, and there is nothing out there from Dodge that even remotely supports the 1000+hp claim yet there are a number of hints at 750-800 (specifically 757 hp).
Also yet to be any reliable info on options.
Figure 750-800 hp, more aggressive torque converter, tires, beefier axles and diff (3.90 ratio), lighter weight, some cool electronics (trans brake, line lock, after-run chiller, etc.) and it should run well into the low-mid 10's stock.
S.
Last edited by Mopar Jimmy; 03-30-2017 at 10:26 PM.
#57
Le Mans Master
The Demon will have 800 something horsepower that is a given, what I am curious about is if it's going to make 800 plus on pump gas, as there is a button that switches to a race gas tune, I also don't think 9's is totally out of the question. People thinking 1000 factory horse are dreaming, but I'm guessing simple mods will get this car at an easy 900 hp range.
Last edited by NytmereZ; 04-08-2017 at 11:39 PM.
#59
Scraping the splitter.
Let's also consider what you actually have if, in fact, they provide the ability to mod the car and made 1023 hp. You have a car that should run well into the 9's. It's being sold without a cage, without harnesses, without a DS loop, without axle retention devices or a window net or a number of other items that make it legal to run at any drag strip. So in effect, it's a Cobra Jet or COPO without all the safety equipment.
S.