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Old 03-19-2017, 12:49 AM
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I can't get past the sticker - $70K for a Camaro?
Many people pay $80,000+ for a Corvette.

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Many people pay $80,000+ for a Corvette.
That's crazy enough, but a Camaro? Camaro's used to be about bringing affordable performance. They aren't going to be converting P drivers with this, maybe cannibalizing Vette sales.
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I love the new ZL1...but although I admire the looks of the 6th gen Camaro...I think GM needs to go further in the styling department in departure from the first or fifth gen.

I understand the cool retro look and why GM did that...I want a totally new look...more Porsche 928 evolution off the panamera...

I think it ll never happen but possibly as the corvette goes mid rear engine...there will be more room for GM s two plus two...

GM s last concept Buick based off the Camaro might have gotten my money...as I'm in my mid to late fifties and I don't want to own a retro like camaro but the performance of the ZL1 is awesome....

And for those that dig the 2 plus 2 look of this modern retro look...the Camaro ZL1 is definitely a great way to go...
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Originally Posted by 427Z0SX
Many people pay $80,000+ for a Corvette.
No, many people pay >$100,000 for a Corvette.
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if you are a Camaro head 70K 80K for the top Camaro is not a big deal...
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Originally Posted by Zoomin
That's crazy enough, but a Camaro? Camaro's used to be about bringing affordable performance. They aren't going to be converting P drivers with this, maybe cannibalizing Vette sales.
Newsflash, cars are getting more expensive. Average transaction price is now over $30,000.

So, if a plain Jane Camry is $27,000 - $33,000 how much should a car that hands M3s their asses cost?

If the 1LE is smoking M4GTSs or whatever and is $30,000 - $40,000 cheaper is it really too expensive?
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Newsflash, cars are getting more expensive. Average transaction price is now over $30,000.

So, if a plain Jane Camry is $27,000 - $33,000 how much should a car that hands M3s their asses cost?

If the 1LE is smoking M4GTSs or whatever and is $30,000 - $40,000 cheaper is it really too expensive?
Would you pay $80,000 for a Camry if it beat M4's? A Prius?

At the end of the day, it's still a freaking Camry - or Camaro. There's more to the value equation than performance.
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Originally Posted by Zoomin
Would you pay $80,000 for a Camry if it beat M4's? A Prius?

At the end of the day, it's still a freaking Camry - or Camaro. There's more to the value equation than performance.
I don't shop badges, so if it drove better and performed better, for less 1/3 less money, then yeah, I would. Prius drives like ****, so no, wouldn't buy one.

Add to that the Camaro is going to be approx 100x cheaper to own/maintain than the BMW and it seems like a no-brainer.
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Originally Posted by Zoomin
I can't get past the sticker - $70K for a Camaro?
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Would you pay $80,000 for a Camry if it beat M4's? A Prius?

At the end of the day, it's still a freaking Camry - or Camaro. There's more to the value equation than performance.
And what's wrong with a Camaro? It's basically as fast as a Z06 for $20K less and has back seats. I also think this track Camaro looks better than the Z06.

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Originally Posted by Callsign_Vega
And what's wrong with a Camaro? It's basically as fast as a Z06 for $20K less and has back seats. I also think this track Camaro looks better than the Z06.
Nothing.

Badge snobs have a problem with it.

They ignore that it shares the same platform with a Caddy and can dominate anything from BMW, Audi or Mercedes priced within $40,000 of it. Visibility is improved from the prev gen and the interior is nicer as well.
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Originally Posted by Callsign_Vega
And what's wrong with a Camaro? It's basically as fast as a Z06 for $20K less and has back seats. I also think this track Camaro looks better than the Z06.
There's nothing wrong with a Camaro. I have a problem with an $80,000 Camaro. It's an answer to a question no one is asking. It's a great performer on the track but not on the sales floor I would predict. Don't look for a flood of German car trade-ins on this one.
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Originally Posted by Zoomin
There's nothing wrong with a Camaro. I have a problem with an $80,000 Camaro. It's an answer to a question no one is asking. It's a great performer on the track but not on the sales floor I would predict. Don't look for a flood of German car trade-ins on this one.
GM isn't going to be upset if they don't sell a ton of them. It's somewhat of a "halo car". They make their money selling SS and V6 models. Given CAFE regs, I would assume doesn't want to sell a million ZL1s.

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